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Difference btwn 68 and 69 911 body

Just for my curious mind,

I know the '69 911 wheel base was extended as one can see looking at the T-Bar hole, but where where the other changes to the monocoupe??? Was the rear glass moved back and the roof extended??? What about the side glass

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I am getting this from the book "Porsche 911 Story". The difference between the Aug 67 - July 68 models and the Aug 68 - July 69 models are:

Longer Wheelbase.
Flared Fenders.
E and S models now with 6 inch rims.
Raised door handles.
Padded spokes on steering wheel.
Heater outlets moved to under the dash.
Electric Rear window defrost (No longer vents).
After Aug of 69 engine enlarged to 2.2 ltrs

I THINK that the top half was unchanged. I THINK that the angle of the back end (ie, Engine lid) was longer. Could be incorrect.

Hope this wasn't information overkill.
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I have read about short-wheel-base cars being converted to LWB.
This Pelican member lengthened his 68:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/pmpre/pm.cgi?login=JordonJames&action=display&

From what I understand, you need LWB suspension parts and LWB rear quarter panels and the job is done.
There is no difference in the roof/glass/trunk or 'monocoupe'.

I have seen some pretty humerous/hideous conversions on ebay, SWB cars with LWB body kits. The rear wheel is not in the center of the wheel arch
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I have a SWB car converted over to LWB for racing, and all that has been said above here is true, there is one more thing I found out. The holes in the dash for the gauges are different, the 68 had the gauges held inplace by brackets and finger nuts onthe back and the 69 and up had the friction fitted gauges. these are not interchangeable, so a 68 will always have to have pre 68, and 69 and on are the same. Remains a pain in the rear for me still, even though everything else is converted.....


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I agree with Adam - no difference in bodyshell, except '69 flares and rear quarters. Roof/glass/rear lid did not change. In addition to Bryan's list and what other's have noted, the '69 also had thinner horn grilles. The '68 had one year only little side reflector lights on the sides of the body front and rear.
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So you could convert SWB sheet metal to long wheelbase for the same amount of effort that would be required to graft a set of SC flares on the rear. I'm guessing that adding the SC flares in the right position would complete the task (if one where so inclined).

Yes?
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Jim I have to disagree with your theory of the gauges being a different size. My 69` has 67` gauges in it and they fit perfect.
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I must concur with pjv911. The gauges up to '69 are held in place by a U-bracket and nuts. The rubber-sleeved gauges appeared after '69. The housing on the later gauges is slightly smaller in diameter than the early gauges, even with the sleeve in place.

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Just to echo the point about the guages, I have an early 69E Karman coupe (#51) and my guages are mounted with %^* @#$% brackets from the back of the dash, behind the heater and associated exposed screws, bolts, wires and other things that rip up knuckles
I've just resigned myself to removing the heater and being very patient any time that I want to work on the guages.

Might they have been changed mid-year to the later style?

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