Forgive me, for I have sinned.....

jevose · jevose's Garage

Happened to read the latest Car & Driver 2002 car report and I could not help but notice all of the wonderful things they had to say about the Honda S2000. I decided to go and test drive one. To say the least I loved it and am now the have one sitting in my garage (next to the Porsche). Now I am forced to do the unthinkable and sell the SC. I cannot believe that I have sold out for a "ricer".... I have loved my SC for the past 2 years and have invested countless dollars and time fixin it up. But it was never going to end..I found myself with 30k plus in a car that I could maybe get 15k for. A car that, no matter how much money I poured into it was never going to be new again and was always going to be in need of a repair. I am now in the heartbreaking situation of having to sell the SC.

Thanks to everyone on this board, you have all been a great help in times of need. My heart will always be with the Porsche and maybe someday in the future I will be able to afford a new one.

Drop me an email if you know anyone interested in an excellent 82 SC.

Thanks again,

Jim

Rot 911 · 12-31-2001, 06:57 AM

Ah you poor deluded fool! In ten years the Honda you just paid $32K for is going to be worth $10K if that! By the way, please turn in all your Pelican membership cards

pjv911 · pjv911's Garage

The S2000 is a excellent choice. Being a import tuner by profession I would recommend leaving the engine alone. There is no modification I can think of to get more ponies out of that engine. Honda has maxed it out. Best mod for that car is a nice set of wheels. Good luck with your new car. Im sure your SC will find a new home so it can now be loved. It takes a particular person to feel O.K. with investing non refundable funds into a 20 year old car. For me, my satisfaction comes from the love and dedication to the endless project off owning a older p-car. Its kinda like having a wife that doesn't work. It costs a fortune but has a rewarding return.

Doug Zielke · 12-31-2001, 07:16 AM

Infidel!
The least you can do is find a good home for your rejected SC.

jluetjen · jluetjen's Garage

Ahh, SCWDP's weakness is finally revealed. Rather then succumb to the siren call of an SC's understressed cubic inches, you could have discovered the joy of driving a light weight car with a real thoroughbred race motor over 30 years ago. Just buy an MFI 911! In 1969 Porsche's 911S made 170HP from a 2 liter and it's taken Honda how many years to match or improve on that??? Besides, Early 911's have got a large club following and parts are reasonable to come by from sellers who are trading up to SC's.

Oops, did I just give away a trade secret!

cegerer · cegerer's Garage

This is an early April Fool's joke. Right?????????????????

island911 · 12-31-2001, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jluetjen
. . .succumb to the siren call of an SC's understressed cubic inches

Leland, I believe we have a new indocterination line.

succumb to the siren call of an SC's understressed cubic inches

pbs911 · pbs911's Garage

Please turn in your SCWDP card.

Seriously, good luck in your decision.

cegerer · cegerer's Garage

To paraphrase European Car magazine:

"Owning a new sports car requires only money. Owning an early 911 requires dedication."

MMARSH · MMARSH's Garage

Congrats on the new car, They are great little cars.

rstoll · 12-31-2001, 11:41 AM

Dont be to hasty to sell the SC. If you can swing it, keep it as a weekender. In ten years the SC will still be a Porsche 911....in ten years the new Honda will be.....well.

tobluforu · tobluforu's Garage

When i was driven in one of those, i was reminded of an old mazda rotary. Not much torque but man do those cars rev. Fun car and as was said before, you will not have to do a thing to make that car much better, except maybe sell it and replace it with another porsche.

howie944 · 01-01-2002, 12:10 AM

Refer to the 993 or keep my SC post. Ya gotta have soul!

kstar · 01-01-2002, 12:27 AM

Looks like a fun, cute little car.

Good luck with your recent purchase.

Seems like it is time for you to find a knowledgeable Honda board to discuss your new car.

For me, I'll stick with the venerable silhouette and the performance racing standards set by the 911 . . .

Best to you,

Kurt

chibone_914 · 01-01-2002, 12:52 AM

Did the saleman at the Honda dealership happen to mention if Honda addressed the piston ring problem inherent with the s2000 engine?

The engine has a terminal problem with blow by. As of April of 2000, The engineer I had spoken to at the time had no answers. (I had been working for Honda Motors Inc. at the time)

This motors love to rev, however, they rev so fast so quickly, they hadn't taken the time to design a piston ring to handle the extra friction/stresses.

Is it too late to get your money back??

Matt Holcomb · Matt Holcomb's Garage

I had the pleasure of driving a 2000-spec Honda Integra Type R last week, and despite the wet conditions, I was able to finally understand why everyone raves about these race-bred cars and their rev-happy motors.

I said to the owner of the car that if I had a spare $35K, I'd buy one and make it my daily driver. It's also a car that I would have no qualms about taking to the track, although I don't think they're quite as robust as air-cooled 911s. Yes, they're really that good; the numbers are impressive: 1797cc; 141kW @ 7900rpm; 1090kg. But that only tells half the story: the handling is 911-like, i.e., flat and razor sharp, and that's despite the fact that the engine and the driving wheels are ahead of you, not behind you. Understeer? Not a trace of it.

Okay, so it's not an S2000, but it might help you understand why some people become smitten with these performance-oriented Hondas.

Would I ever sell my 911 to get into one? Of course not! My Carrera 2.7 has too much soul, is too much fun, and has many more credentials. The owner of this Integra was just as impressed with my car (and in the wet!) as I was with his, and, I'm sure, would love to have a 911 (like mine!) parked next to his Integra.

Matt Holcomb
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JuiceMan · 01-01-2002, 03:52 AM

Mmmmmmm S2000 Huh? I smell a supercharger in need in the near furture!

5axis · 01-01-2002, 06:37 AM

Yargk · Yargk's Garage

pjv911, didn't Mugen get 255 hp out of the S2000? I know the motor is just about as good as it can get, however the Mugen S2000 was tested by a magazine, and if I recall correctly, and those 15 ponies were hard working. The 0-60 and quarter mile times were lower.

pjv911 · pjv911's Garage

Keith, The further loss of the non existant bottom end power would be a mistake. Boosting up the power a addtional claimed 15 hp(which is questionable) would without a question make the car less fun to drive. Someone had to try an attempt at improving the performance since it is said it cant be done within 50 state smog laws. If a S2000 owner was feeling foolish a 50hp nitrus kit would work but why mess with a good thing.

Kurt