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Time to dig in...softie conversion
I found a neglected 1971 T targa a few months ago. It had been serviced at a local shop for the last 20 years. Story has it the son took the car out and met a tree with the right front fender. Owner didn't feel like dealing with the repair so he bought a 993 and the shop bought the damaged car. Car then spent some time outside...not sure how long, but it was a while...more on that later. The engine was complete and not seized, so I worked a deal with the shop where we agreed on a price, but I had no room so the car was going to remain an "outside dog" for a few more months beside the shop. I created some room in the shop recently and brought the car home.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281049826.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281049853.jpg The plan was to look the car over carefully and decide if it deserved to be brought back, or was a parts candidate. I knew that the numbers matched...but that does me no good if the car is too far gone. Once off the trailer an into the shop, I had the opportunity to look the car and damage over more closely. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281050397.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281050430.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281050459.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281050489.jpg The engine lid exists, but did not travel with the car as the missing lisence plate panel and bumperettes. I pulled off the air cleaner to check out the carbs and to see what the intakes looked like. Not great news as I saw "standing liquid in number six throat...hmm. How did water get into the carb and intake if the air cleaner was on? Anyway, the engine turns over and was going to need a rebuild. From my initial inspection.... Numbers did confirm 1971T both engine (zeniths) and chassis Perforated drivers rocker Solid longitudinals Surface rust on front suspension pan Solid rear shelf (from underneath) Decent steelies withspare and hubcaps Trashed passenger fender with rusted doubler Good targa bar and rear glass Excellent targa top Good doors,windows,chrome...trashy aftermarket mirrors Decent hood and drivers fender Nice H-1 headlights Complete...but very average interior Gas tank ok topside, but very dented bottomside Correct and complete toolkit/jack etc Acceptable turnsignal housings, lenses and horn grills Fiberglass S front bumper (this will go away) Nice rear bumper pair Floors look structurally solid from underneath Missing steering rack cover Looks like a keeper, but I need to dig through to the next layer. Speedo |
With your mad skills, this car is going to be great!
Contact Jamie Novak about the softie conversion. |
I said "take your clothes off"
This is always the most frightening part of starting a restoration. It is always going to be worse than it looks, but the question is, how much worse. And in the back of your mind you are hoping for the best...but bondo, paint, carpet and undercoating can not only hide rust, in some situations I have seen them actually provide structural rigidity when the sandwiched steel was completely compromised.
These cars actually come apart very easily and quickly if you plan ahead and use a penetrating fluid before you actually start to wrench. I am not a fan of shearing rusted bolts from their nuts. Part of a day and we get to this point. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281052323.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281052349.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281052373.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281052399.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281052423.jpg Fortunately the rear shelf is very solid. Some surface rust at the base of the targa bar, and along the lower window ledge...no big deal. Rear inner walls are decent as well as the rear seats...whew! I found a new sandblaster that is closer and cheaper, and he has a window available in less than a week. I'm on a mission. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281052686.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281052746.jpg Hard to see in these next two photos...but the floors in the car have huge upward dents...like the car was dropped on large rocks. These will need to be massaged back in place. They will be more obvoius when sand blasted. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281052776.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281052801.jpg When I opened the smugglers box I was treated to a surprise. The good news was that there was zero rust. The reason for the zero rust was the bad news. This must have been "critter central" for the last many years. They had absolutely shreaded a Haines manual and "hauled in" mattress stuffing from somewhere. I also found a 25 year old can of flat tire sealer/inflator, a partially eaten road flare and all kinds of weird crap unassociated with cars...pretty nasty, so I will spare the pics of the carnage. |
Wow, I love the look of those steelies on an early car.
Cant wait to follow the process. I am in the middle of restoring a Conda green 70T Targa myself. You have done more in one day than I did in over a year! Please keep posting pics to give me and others motivation. |
Almost stripped...
No more surprises in the removal of the rest of the parts that don't want to "meet the media". Floors are oxcidized, but solid and should clean up nicely as will the area under the pedal cluster. Strangely the car has an early SWB front suspension with a steering damper.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281053626.jpg I have correct suspension to replace the "three bolt" ball joint struts...with 3.5 inch spacing for bigger brakes, so this will go to the parts bin. Getting lighter by the hour. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281053809.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281053833.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281053857.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281053891.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281053918.jpg And pretty much done...she'll be at tha blasters Saturday am. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281053981.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281054001.jpg I picked up the rear lid today, as well as the bumperettes which came connected to the armco bumper bars...nice. I'll send in an extra right fender that I will get blated too...but maybe I can salvage the front of the existing fender and graft it to a short hood fender using the turn signal boxes as donors. The front of the dammaged passenger fender is in great shape, so that may be an option. The car is actually in very good shape to retore. Considerably better than some others I have brought back to life. The plan is to go black, with a red interior with E30 restored BMW recaros...fuchs (15x7s and deep 6s) or a set of TTDs that are refinished, but sitting in boxes. Engine is going to get a 70.4 crank, S cams and 2.2 S pistons with webers. Resuspension with 22-28 tbars, adjustable spring plates and sway bars...and lose some ride height. Oh yeah...think we are going to swap out the hard rear window for a softie:D Cheers Speedo |
here you go again! Looking forward to the updates...
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my guess is that the humps in the floor came from improper jacking and lifting over the last 39 years.
looks like it began life as Gemini Blue. - (same color I on ordered my 71 914) keep us posted Bill K |
were they Armco bumper bars? You got me thinking......I used to know those guys, and can't remember if it was Armco or something else..I mean a name close to that started with an A.
they were in Van Nuys as I remember. AMCO that was it. they made luggage racks and bumper bars......they were the hot thing!! |
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Another great project gets started. let me know if you have any SWT conversion questions.
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I got bumped forward a day on sandblasting...
Used the time to go over the peripherals...3 fenders, 2 doors, rear bumpers. I don't really see any issues that are going to be deal breakers.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281225113.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281225148.jpg I closed off the speaker opening on the dash to protect some of the wiring harness from the media http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281225264.jpg Small items for blasting end up in the smugglers box http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281225349.jpg The longblock looks worn. Looks like the muffler is in great shape...the factory heat exchangers will make way for SSIs.The engine will get attention when the car goes for paint. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281225477.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281225547.jpg Car goes on the trailer tomorrow and gets stuffed with ancillaries...fenders, rear lid, bumpers etc. I like to intersperse small jobs with larger efforts. Next up are refinishing a crappy looking wooden shift knob http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281225848.jpg Rebushing a questionable pedal cluster...brake plunger held together with a nail http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281225932.jpg And rebuilding the axles. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281226037.jpg Little items keep the juices going. Looks like my drivers green tint window has suffered some scratches...so anyone with a decent targa extra...let me know. I will be posting some items for sale tomorrow that will not be returning to the car...fiberglass S front bumper, H5 headlamps, and 71 recaro seats with headrests, and door pockets. I'm not sure yet...but the 5 chrome steelie 5.5 x15 may be heading out too...if I go with the Torque Thrust Ds. Let me get them posted first please. Speedo |
Heading to the beach...warm sand...
Hmmm...how about warm media....or just the media blaster:p
We go from thishttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281745681.jpg To this pretty quicklyhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281745760.jpg "Honey, the car is packed"! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281745807.jpg Funny...this shot reminds me of college. Coming home late after a "bender"..you are "all there, but feel a little crooked. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281746220.jpg The seats are at the upholsterer...need to figure out a red vinyl that matches the early porsche red interiors...suggestions would be appreciated. I have never been a fan of the door pockets. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1281746478.jpg They will be deleted in favor of a "pouch" on the drivers side. These are in decent shape, so if you need a set, PM me as they will hit the classifieds shortly. The black exterior with chrome trim and red interior are going to be enough of a contrast to try to minimize "clutter" and keep things spartan. Door tops will be black as will the dash and carpets. No luck yet on early soft targa parts...so Yves, I guess we will be talking shortly. Speedo |
How did I miss this for the last few days? While I am disappointed that project cabriolet isn't going to happen this is a worthy substitute. I'll have to come up and see it when you get it back from blaster. I assume this means you aren't racing this weekend?
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Lars, did I ever get back to you about your red interior question?
Mine is from BMW I believe but Jaguar also has some nice reds. IMHO, the Porsche reds are look too much like lip stick. The original Heragon carpet is also available in a great crimson red...that would look nice with a darker red interior with black door tops, dash etc... I've always thought red interiors would compliment a blue car nicely. Keep up the great work! |
PM sent on the pockets. I need them for my '73.5 Gulf Orange targa project:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/484707-latest-project-911t-gulf-orange-w-brown-interior-keep-original.html |
Lars, any more updates on this? Hope you're well buddy.
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I don't want to miss this!
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Hey Lars
This is the factory red interior from the 68/69 targa brochure... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1287210953.jpg Chris is right - it's pretty "bright" ;) |
What a great project - can't wait for updates.
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