1972 Door Panel Removal

[BeemerMike]

OK, I realize that this question is not very "technical", but the problem is holding me up, so I'm hoping someone has the answer.

I am trying to remove the interior door panels on my 1972 911E, and I cannot figure out how to remove the nut that is located on the INSIDE of the door on the machine screw that holds the back end of the forward (open) door pocket. All the other screws that hold the door panel and pockets onto the door metal frame thread into the door metal frame, and are easily accessed from outside of the door, but this screw is the only one that has a nut on it, and it's inside the door (what was Butzi thinking?). The Porsche factory workshop manual does not address this nut, and the Haynes manual shows removing this nut with open end wrench working inside the door. However, there is a lip on the door frame next to the nut that impairs access to the nut, and there is not much room to maneuver through the hole in the door. I have also tried to use a 1/4" socket (both standard and deep), box end, and flare nut wrenches, but nothing has been successful in getting purchase on this nut. If I get the nut off, I'm not sure how I would get it back on and torqued, but I am probably going to install RS America or RS/RSR panels, so this may not be an issue.

Somebody has removed this nut before. What's the secret?

[cjmurph]

I remember my wife calling for my services when she was doing the panels in our '71. She's not nearby at the moment but I definately recall that being a pain.
At the nearest opportunity I'll ask her to recount what we did and post if it's worth anything.
I think we had a small 1/4" socket drive that we used and was the only thing that could fit in the tight space. I also recall an open end not being up to the task but I really have to confirm. Too many broken parts and brain cells burnt since then.

[ed mayo]

You remove the bungeee holding the rear flip out pocket so it flops down, then reach in through the opening with your 1/4" drive ratchet, 10mm socket, and unscrew the nut.

[cjmurph]

You remove the bungeee holding the rear flip out pocket so it flops down, then reach in through the opening with your 1/4" drive ratchet, 10mm socket, and unscrew the nut.

Wife confirmed what Mr. Mayo is saying.
Good Luck,
Curt

[BeemerMike]

Originally Posted by ed mayo

You remove the bungeee holding the rear flip out pocket so it flops down, then reach in through the opening with your 1/4" drive ratchet, 10mm socket, and unscrew the nut.

Thanks Ed (and Curt). Success this morning.

Not being one to be afraid to admit when I've done something stupid (especially so others don't make the same stupid mistake), after Ed confirmed that I was using the correct technique, I slept on it overnight and went back out this morning to try again (almost always better than trying to force something while frustrated). I sat back down by the door, looked at it again, and the "secret" revealed itself almost immediately . . . don't try to remove this nut with the window rolled all the way down! I rolled the window about half way up so that the two arms were out of the way (my car still has the original "parallelogram" mechanism) and the nut was easily removed with a 1/4" ratchet and 10mm deep socket.

OK, let the laughing begin . . .

[cjmurph]

No laughing here.
I'll admit to rolling my eyes at my wife when she asked for help and then proceeding to spending the next hour trying to figure it out the hard way. At least you were smart enough to ask on the forum.

On a seperate note.. If you get a minute, would you mind detailing the jet sizes on your carbs at your elevation. I'm doing the conversion and just grabbing info from others with the 2.7's.