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Roby466 12-23-2010 06:54 PM

Lost key on factory lug nut
 
Hi,
I lost the key for my factory lock nuts that I got from PP.
I called PP, they said that they cannot order a replacement key, I went to the dealer, same story... Why is there a key code on the package then...
Anyway, the local shop tried their tool and it wrecked the stud and did not take the locking nut off.
Anybody has any way to do this or am I the first idiot to lose the key on these cars...
Thanks for any help!!

djporsche 12-23-2010 06:59 PM

This should work.

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techweenie 12-23-2010 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roby466 (Post 5744290)
Hi,
I lost the key for my factory lock nuts that I got from PP.
I called PP, they said that they cannot order a replacement key, I went to the dealer, same story... Why is there a key code on the package then...
Anyway, the local shop tried their tool and it wrecked the stud and did not take the locking nut off.
Anybody has any way to do this or am I the first idiot to lose the key on these cars...
Thanks for any help!!

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djdsc 12-23-2010 07:46 PM

If it is a Porsche locking lug nut that takes the key socket, most dealerships do have a master set of key sockets; 2-boxes worth the time I needed to get one.

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Dantilla 12-23-2010 07:53 PM

I've purchased a few parts cars that did not come with the key for the lugs.

A 3/4" circle cutter with the pilot bit removed is perfect for cutting off the locking lug without harming the lug itself.

Roby466 12-23-2010 08:37 PM

Yes,
It is the porsche one like the one in the picture... The one they either sell at the dealer or on PP.
The local dealer tried their "master" keys and nothing worked...
They were not very helpful.
I'm a bit scared of the damage on the FIKSE wheels using the circle cutter... it does not damage?
Thanks!

yelcab1 12-23-2010 09:33 PM

The dealer did not try hard enough. I used to have just one key so I took the lock off the wheel and took it into the dealer. They tried the set, and found a match, and ordered a key for $25. Easier at the counter than at the curb. Trust me on that one.

Dantilla 12-24-2010 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roby466 (Post 5744444)
I'm a bit scared of the damage on the FIKSE wheels using the circle cutter... it does not damage?
Thanks!

Not if done carefully. I've never damaged a wheel doing this.

Scott R 12-24-2010 04:15 PM

I get a lot of these, just hammer on a socket that fits over it and hit it with a breaker bar, they will come off. Agreed the dealer didn't try hard enough.

Mike80911 12-24-2010 08:42 PM

+1 on the hammering on a socket used this many times on many different types and always works

175mph951 12-24-2010 09:03 PM

the snapon wheel lock removal socket works everytime for me...ive removed 50+ of them with it, if fits over the part that has the notches for the key, if you only get a socket over the top part 9 out of 10 times that part breaks off

scottb 12-25-2010 08:07 AM

Here's the Snap-On socket -- spendy at $50 for a single socket

TSR600, Socket, Locking Lug Nut Removal

Here's a whole set of damaged nut/bolt removers from Sears for $60, with a bunch of different sizes.

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If it were me, I'd try the Sears kit, but I wouldn't just slap on the removal socket and try to spin the lock off. Instead, I'd use the smallest socket possible to be sure it "bit" tightly into the lug nut. Then I'd put a long breaker bar on it and slowly and steadily lean on it until the nut started to loosen. No impact wrench. If the lug nut sheared off while doing this, then I'd just drill it with a hole saw. Lots of people have recommended using the hole saw method for removing broken lug nuts, including John Walker. And the "upside" would be that I'd have a cool damaged bolt/nut remover kit in my garage. :D

HTH. Let us know what you do.

Carrerax 12-25-2010 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike80911 (Post 5745831)
+1 on the hammering on a socket used this many times on many different types and always works

X3. This will work. Use a cheap old set of sockets and hammer away. Wheel will be fine if you are careful and it will come right off. Been there done that...

john walker's workshop 12-25-2010 08:40 AM

nope, sorry. those nuts are designed to shear off the top part and leave the bottom part if the socket trick or snapon lug nut removal tool is used. so that's the first step to removal. the second step is to use the 3/4" deep hole saw carefully on the bottom part.

Joe Bob 12-25-2010 09:13 AM

JW has the right suggestion.....hope you have decided like most of us to NEVER buy locks again. Waste of time if ya ask me. All they do is piss off the owner.

Rarely do they protect from theft.

yelcab1 12-25-2010 10:50 AM

Take it back to the dealer and ask them to LET YOU try out the master kit. It will take you 1 hour to try all 25 of them but you WILL find a fit. Then buy 2 spare ones, one for the tool box in the garage and one for the glove box in the car.

They have a master kit, you just need to waste your time and not theirs.

markwemple 09-20-2019 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yelcab1 (Post 5744499)
The dealer did not try hard enough. I used to have just one key so I took the lock off the wheel and took it into the dealer. They tried the set, and found a match, and ordered a key for $25. Easier at the counter than at the curb. Trust me on that one.

Where did you find one for $25. Only 1 dealer is willing to sell me one and for $50. Seems pretty spendy for what it is.

cmcfaul 09-20-2019 11:51 AM

its a tiny lock. Should be easy to pic. Look at a U tube vid on how to do it. Prob take a first timer 30 mins for the first one and 5 mins for the others.

Chris
89 Carrera

markwemple 09-20-2019 12:18 PM

Lug bolts on 986/996 and later cars are completely different than the locks on the lug nuts


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