Slant nose information wanted

[IanTBoyd]

Recently purchased this 75 911 targa, it has a non-varioram 3.6, 930 suspension and brakes, etc. fun and fast. I had a few questions and was wondering if anyone could tell me from the one picture I have right now. What was done to the targa and can I just replace it with any year targa roof? does anyone have information on who may have manufactured the slant kit? it has fixed headlights that appear to use a 993 profile lens.


thank you!

[sobamaflyer]

There is a slim possibility that may have been a factory hard top (hang onto it for heaven's sake or sell it to one of us for $10, I'll even pay shipping )

More likely it's either a fiberglass cover over a standard frame or even a painted Saratoga. In any event you "should" be able to swap it out with a regular folding soft top if you like.

A picture from the inside would tell much more.

Sorry, no clue on my part on the body kit but it's cool.

[IanTBoyd]

Thanks, I'll go snag some more pictures of the roof, its covered in a leather type material, probably just done by a PO but I wasn't sure if anyone had seen something like that before. Still looking for information on the body kit. Also, is there a simple way to determine if the 3.6 is from a 993 or 964?

[sobamaflyer]

Sorry, being white I "ass"umed it was a painted hard top, does it have a folding frame? Maybe the shop that did all the body work had the original top recovered in white vinyl?

The engine code gurus will very quickly tell you what you have if you provide the numbers off the case that you will find to the right of the fan housing. Could be a modified anything (making it a 3.6) or could have come straight out of a 964 or 993.

[IanTBoyd]

The paper work I have shows it as a 94 3.6. 75 911 pictures by masterian1 - Photobucket thats a link to more pictures. Ill go inspect the top a little more. I bought the car for the performance mods, not so much the body type. I am definately not familiar with these cars. I've owned plenty of VW's and 914's but this is my first 911.

[G50Mike]

Front of the body kit and targa top look like Buchmann und Buchmann (B+B). A german tuner who went bankrupt in 1986. I believe headlights were 928 ones.

[sobamaflyer]

That's a regular factory targa top as far as I can tell it was obviously just covered in white when someone did the white out treatment on the rest of the interior.

Why is it you ask about changing the top? You can send it to carsinc to be rebuilt and recovered (top specialist very revered around here), finding one in even ok shape for less than $400-500 will be a challenge.

[IanTBoyd]

No real reason for asking other than I had not seen a white one before but like I said not too familiar with these cars yet. They look like 928 lights but its really just a lens of some sort and then a rectangular light behind it. It also doesn't seem to have functioning high beams. So I will have to see what I can do about that.

[onboost]

Originally Posted by G50Mike

Front of the body kit and targa top look like Buchmann und Buchmann (B+B). A german tuner who went bankrupt in 1986. I believe headlights were 928 ones.

Key word here is "look like" Buchmann und Buchmann (B+B) as clearly it is not.

Believe your body kit is one of those offered by Better Bodies in California They used to offer one with the fixed but slanted back headlights such as yours.

Your Targa top is the regular folding style top that has been covered in white on both sides. As someone else stated.. why not just have that one recovered..

But if you want to buy and extra, I have a top for sale that also needs to be recovered..on the top side only. I also have a number of blk targa interior pieces that would help you tone it down if that's what you're trying to do.

Looks like someone spent a fair amount of money on the car at some point.

Good luck!

[IanTBoyd]

Thanks guys. Not too sure what I am gonna do as far as the top goes. It doesnt look bad but its alot of white! The guy I bought it from had all the work done back in the late 90's and the reciepts show someting like 35k+ spent on it at once. I just got the whole car for quite a bit less than half that. Just trying to get some background on the car before I decide what to do with it.

[IanTBoyd]

new question! The wing is called out as a 3.8 GTP Performance Wing on some reciept I have. The part number is listed as 993.512.111; is this a factory piece or something aftermarket. It has never been painted and is mostly fiberglass except for the adjustable carbon airfoil part.

[IanTBoyd]

[sobamaflyer]

It is a whole bunch of white! (Eye Scorching, and how bad does it glare in the daylight off that dash?)

Now, I'm a fan of big tails but that one is a monster! IMHO it's overpowering (maybe because it's the only black piece) I'd paint it to match or replace it w/ a smaller Turbo or Whale. Surely it's an aftermarket looking at your pics but I could very well be wrong

Seems like you have a decent quality remodel, the top would be the last thing I adjusted on that if it were me, seems like it's in decent shape and given the painted bar it's not horribly out of place.

The Dashboard on the other hand......

I dig your wheels!

[IanTBoyd]

Thank you. The wheels are my favorite part, followed by the motor, the brakes,..... the whole thing. The big tale might look better white but I may sell it and get something closer to stock looking. Not to much glare at all. It is in good shape, water tight. Not looking to change to much at the moment, other than the wing (paint or replace).

[sobamaflyer]

We need to start a '75 Targa FrankenPorsche support group. I personally think your car is pretty damn cool but the purists are going to hate it Congrats on the new toy!

[schumicat]

If that's what they were doing to the classic 911 body, I can see why B+B went out of business.

Originally Posted by G50Mike

Front of the body kit and targa top look like Buchmann und Buchmann (B+B). A german tuner who went bankrupt in 1986. I believe headlights were 928 ones.

[IanTBoyd]

I emailed Better Bodies and Armando was very helpful. The following is what I recieved

"This is a Folger kit out of Germany Folger Karosserie Styling - Spezialisiert auf Karosserie Umbauten für Porsche und BMW - Tuning they no longer manufacture this kit however the front denders are 9" tubo wide the rears are 12 inches wide which is 1" wider than the stock turbo."

I emailed Folger for more information and to confirm this we shall see.

I really need to do something about the lights though, They are pretty bad and dont have a high beam function. Any suggestions?

[sobamaflyer]

Replace the rectangular insides w/ one of the plethora of slim projector style headlamps, possibly even HID, while leaving the existing covers. Would be my first thought, but it will take some digging into just what you have behind those lenses to work it out.

[IanTBoyd]

I have thought about something like that but I was wondering in the lens diffusion would mess everythin up. I just saw a thread here recentyl where someone adapted HID'd to an older 911 housing and was hoping I could do something similar. I'll have to figure out what the lens came from first though.