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idar211 03-07-2011 02:56 PM

HELP !!! I lost my Keys !!!
 
Hey need some advice !!!

i lost my keys to my 82 911sc. I live in vacaville ca, and i called walnut creek porsche and they said it will 660 for a whole new ignition assembly. What should i do and who should i call. I was goin to order a set from pelican and maybe call a lock smith. Any advice would help!

plumb4u2 03-07-2011 03:01 PM

a good locksmith should b able to make u a set of keys.....sit down and take a deeeep breath retrace your steps maybe you will find keys

rusnak 03-07-2011 03:05 PM

Call used Porsche guy, pay money, get spare ignition w key for the next time you lose the keys?

Joe Bob 03-07-2011 03:10 PM

AAA if you have it, covers a locksmith.....AAA is money well spent on an old Porsche....or any older ride.

etcmss 03-07-2011 03:49 PM

lost keys
 
try the locksmith first--if you change the ignition now consider the doors-lose this key too?
if you really want to change them all--there are several places to get a set-used.
(not our host)

nesslar 03-07-2011 03:54 PM

I once "lost" mine, found them in the bottom of a six-pack of beer in the fridge; fell off my finger as I walked into the house, didn't even notice and hadn't "partaken" yet either....................I'd say keep looking, like in the laundry, etc., dirty and cleaned pants, even look in the washer. Walk around the house and just look everywhere, you probably just set them in some unusual place. Did your better half meet you au natural at the door and mess up your routine? :)

bfunke 03-07-2011 04:59 PM

Do you have the key code written down? If so the dealer can make you a new key. I believe they can also cut a key by looking up the code from your VIN. You'll need to bring your registration and photo ID. If you have lock cylinder out I believe a locksmith can also make you a new key. I would buy a new lockset only as a last resort.

I used to live in Vacaville 25 years ago. Had a house on Aurburn court. Except for your neighbor Charley Manson, I remember Vacaville as charming little town.

Good luck.

Bryan

nesslar 03-07-2011 05:05 PM

Yes! Call the dealer; make 'em an offer if it sounds like robbery. You should be able to get a new key.....a blank and a few minutes work? They might say "$100", and they will be smiling....but even so, it's a good thing in the end (so to speak). I bought a new wheel lock-lug key for my car for about $33.00 from the dealer. I ain't complainin'. I'm sure they can fix you up. Good post, bfunke...

Hugh R 03-07-2011 05:08 PM

If its a USA car the dealer or any good lock shop should be able to make a key from the VIN, they'll screw you on the $

ghamilton 03-07-2011 05:12 PM

I had a new key cut from my Vin on my '92 Land Cruiser cause when I bought it the owner had a crappy copy.

Mr Toyo only charged me $7each. They were not chipped keys.

idar211 03-07-2011 11:33 PM

thanks for the advice guys...i guess ill start calling lock smiths.
The dealer said the car is too old to cut a key from the vin number. The used ignition set up sounds like a good option. Does anyone know what lock smith to call or where i can get a used ignition. Junkyard ?
About vacaville...its still a pretty nice town, some parts get a lil ghetto with the spill over from fairfeild and vallejo. I dont know if charley manson is even still around, maybe. I like it here, i cant complain.

Geronimo '74 03-07-2011 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idar211 (Post 5888559)
The dealer said the car is too old to cut a key from the vin number. .

That is BS...

It could be that your lock cilinder is a bit worn out and it could be that a correct but new key for it will not work.
But chances are it will work just fine.
It did so with my keys.
(for the VIN procedure to work, your car still needs to have the original locks and cilinder...

twistoffat 03-08-2011 12:43 AM

These guys are in Cali. Give them a call and ask if they can help or know someone near you

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Poohsan 03-09-2011 12:13 AM

If you have time you could try Ebay for the ignition assembly. I've also seen ignition assemblies with matching door cylinders there.

PORSCHE 911 964 IGNITION SWITCH ASSEMBLY W/ KEY 70-UP - eBay (item 330537684222 end time Apr-02-11 08:20:18 PDT)

fred cook 03-09-2011 04:09 AM

Lost Keys........
 
If you can get into the car (door unlocked), then the easiest way to duplicate the key will be to remove the door panel and the outside door handle. Take the door handle with lock (should be the same as the ignition) to a locksmith. he can remove the lock cylinder and pull the key code off the tumblers and cut a new key. This way you do not have to replace the ignition lock. Hope this helps.

BlueWing 03-09-2011 06:06 AM

Try and remember the last time you can think of handling the keys and work from there. When I was an active locksmith I would always first if outside or away from their home do a knee crawl around the car, second if the car was unlocked search all those nooks and crannies where things disappear. If you ever dismantled an interior you would know what I mean. These places hold change, french fries, small tools, makeup.............

I have found the customers lost keys inside and out, frustration blindness sometimes.

If the car is home and unlocked and you can wrench get a used lock set, ignition, doors and glovebox. I never needed to remove a Porsche ignition so I am not versed in that area, but the door locks are easy, glove box should be able to be rigged if needed.

If all else fails a locksmith is your best bet, remove and dismantle as much as you can to save the labor cost. I don't know in Porsche but the door cylinder usually has fewer wafers than the ignition. What I used to do is use a soft brass key generate it to operate the door accurately make a copy than file to the final cuts in the ignition.

Find the key - your time no cost
Locksmith - $$
Dealer - $$$$$$$$$$$$

Scott R 03-09-2011 07:56 AM

Locksmith charges me $17 a key for missing keys. Easiest way it to remove the glove box lock, after that the door and drop the lock cylinder off at the locksmith. I'm normally not in a hurry so I just pick them up the next day with my new key.

If I need to wait at the shop it takes about 15 mins to get a key on the older cars. I purchase a lot of cars at auction without keys, it's never a problem. Getting into a p-car is also pretty easy, the earlier the easier of course.

gtc 03-09-2011 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred cook (Post 5890632)
If you can get into the car (door unlocked), then the easiest way to duplicate the key will be to remove the door panel and the outside door handle. Take the door handle with lock (should be the same as the ignition) to a locksmith. he can remove the lock cylinder and pull the key code off the tumblers and cut a new key. This way you do not have to replace the ignition lock. Hope this helps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 5890956)
Locksmith charges me $17 a key for missing keys. Easiest way it to remove the glove box lock, after that the door and drop the lock cylinder off at the locksmith. I'm normally not in a hurry so I just pick them up the next day with my new key.

If I need to wait at the shop it takes about 15 mins to get a key on the older cars. I purchase a lot of cars at auction without keys, it's never a problem. Getting into a p-car is also pretty easy, the earlier the easier of course.

+1 to these. A used ignition lock with key will run you about $200, plus they are a real PITA to remove and replace.

rusnak 03-09-2011 09:56 AM

The glovebox lock is a little stubborn bugger. I'd go with the door lock if you want to try the tumblers.

rusnak 03-09-2011 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 5890956)
Locksmith charges me $17 a key for missing keys. Easiest way it to remove the glove box lock, after that the door and drop the lock cylinder off at the locksmith. I'm normally not in a hurry so I just pick them up the next day with my new key.

If I need to wait at the shop it takes about 15 mins to get a key on the older cars. I purchase a lot of cars at auction without keys, it's never a problem. Getting into a p-car is also pretty easy, the earlier the easier of course.

How do you get into a locked '74-'89?

Scott R 03-09-2011 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 5891248)
How do you get into a locked '74-'89?

Put a wedge between the back of the jam and the rear window, reach in with a wire and pull the door handle. 911 doors have a lot of flex room for doing this.

rusnak 03-09-2011 10:40 AM

Interesting. I might need some grape stake wire for my door handles.

Scott R 03-09-2011 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 5891295)
Interesting. I might need some grape stake wire for my door handles.

I have some fencing wire in my toolbox that I use. The paddle/flapper style on the 911's; you just hook the front edge and pull back. Having the advantage of some leverage and the fact that it's nice and accessible makes it easy.

rusnak 03-09-2011 10:50 AM

I was just thinking that through; I locked myself out a month ago. I think the hard part will be to maintain a hook to grip the handle, and then the right angle needed to pull the handle to rotate it back.

porschenut 03-09-2011 11:46 AM

As soon as you get the new ignition lock and keys made up and installed, it's guaranteed your original keys will turn up!

IIWY, I'd turn the house upside down first and see if the keys fall out. Check other cars, too. And the driveway. And the garage floor. Check the underwear drawer. Finding the original keys is by far the best and cheapest option. Spend the bulk of your effort on that goal and don't give up. The keys are still there; they're just waiting around for you to find them.

teenerted1 03-09-2011 04:16 PM

invite all your p-car friend over for a beer and see if any of their keys will work. so far i have one that has a key that will work with mine.

911freek 03-10-2011 10:51 PM

If you can survive without the car for a couple of weeks, go straight to Germany. Porsche in Germany should be able to make you a key based on the serial of the car.

Else try to take a locking part off the car (i.e. glove compartment lock, door handle or switch assembly) and take it to the locksmith. they can reverse-engineer a key based on the positions of the pins.


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