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soundproofing, should I even bother?
I have the engine out and have removed all the soundproofing which was deteriating badly.
I looked through the archives and read that putting the soundproofing pad doesn't seem to reduce noise by much. What is peoples opinoin on this. Should I put a soundpad? (I do have a Targa which has lot's of noise to begin with). Should I use the stock material, Dynamat, B-quite material, or nothing? Here are links to the above suppliers: http://www.dynamat.com/ http://www.b-quiet.com/ Cheers,
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My vote is for nothing. I installed the factory pad when I had my engine out for a clutch job back in December. There was no pad there before, and I can't tell a difference in sound. Waste of money, and adds weight.
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I sprayed undercoating after I removed mine. Looks great!
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Funny you should bring it up; I removed the sound pad on my car yesterday and painted the firewall with POR15 Chassis paint.
The verdict? Almost no difference in engine noise, with SSI's and SS Burschoff exhaust.
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I used Dynomat on the entire floorpan, rear deck, and doors of my 73. I haven't really driven the car much yet, but I do know that the doors shut with a high quality "thump" now. I would recommend using dynomat on the entire rear deck and doors, but I don't think that covering the rest of the floor will do much for you.
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Sound deadning is another "personal opnion" answer. I did interior floor pan, firewall, doors, outside trans. tunnel, and engine comp. with the Dynamat [their top model] and love it. Reduced road, trans. gear, and most harmonics resonating thru the car. Engine and exhaust noise sounds cleaner without a hollow beer can sound overhang. Again, this is a personal opnion.
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I was in the process of putting a new one in my car. So while the old one was out I figured I'd drive it around and see if I noticed any difference without it.
I really couldn't tell much difference. A tiny bit, maybe. But that may be just because I knew it wasn't there. I reinstalled the new one because I had bought it already and it was easier than removing all the old glue and refinishing the firewall. |
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After I removed that falling-apart soundproof pad, I was happier ever after. Can't tell any different. I would never bother to put another one.
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I agree it really is a personal thing. BUT all that Dynamat is heavy, so if the noise isn't too bad, then the weight issue might sway you. I will not replace mine when I take it out.
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Shawn....I agree with you on weight of Dynamat. I probably added enough weight to outweight the weight of completely removing yhe AC system. I may spend all day in the 911, weeks at a time, and it makes a difference to me. Harmonics and driver fatigue are related IMHO.
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Thanks for the input guys.
Looks like soundproofing is a waste of time, money, and weight. I will not replace mine.
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My car has no factory sound proofing...and it is a targa...so I covered the whole engine area with Dynamat Extreme and added more to the doors. Then I put down extra floor mats - 2 or 3 both front and rear on both sides of the car. The verdict: Probably added tons of weight but the car is *much* quieter and everyone who rides in it mentions the difference.
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Without removing the engine, what's the best way to remove the leftover adhesive after removing the pad?
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I took the pad out of my 914, and there was adhesive left on the firewall.
It took me a long, long time to get it all off. The best thing that I found was a product called "Goof Off." Because the paint under there isn't really great to start with, I ended up repainting the firewall. It looked great afterwards, but it was a ton of work. And that was with the engine OUT of the car. I didn't want to go through that again, which is the main reason why I replaced my crumbling pad with a new one. |
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