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CorsePerVita 07-21-2011 08:23 PM

odd sort of hesitation
 
Getting kind of an odd hesitation on throttle. It was only slightly there after I got done working on the car, I figured it may be the plugs I put in so I changed them out. Stayed the same.

Basically, right after a shift as I get on the throttle it feels like the power isn't quite all there. At higher rpms it's fine. Lower rpms it isnt'. Say i'm at 3k and put my foot down, it generally feels like the power is there and snappy, but gradual acceleration feels weak at times.. Anywhere from 2k to 2.5k it is super sluggish to respond unless I just put my foot down, then it seems to react and it's fine.

A couple things I'm considering:

- Vacuum leaks? I replaced pretty much all the vacuum lines on the car except the main airbox hose.
- Fuel issue? Weak pump maybe?

DRACO A5OG 07-21-2011 08:28 PM

When did you last replace the fuel filter?

Remove the filter and check the strainer for debris. If clogged, unclog and swap next oil change.

When was the alst time you swapped the Cap and Rotor, check that as well. Bentley shows the proper Ohms you will be looking for.

CorsePerVita 07-21-2011 08:45 PM

Cap/rotor/wires/plugs all replaced at the time I did the clutch in the engine out maintenance. And it ran like a top for like a week, felt like a new car. Then slowly has developed this off the wall hesitation. I'll do an ohms check on the cap and rotor just to be on the safe side. I didn't think to check the fuel filter, very possible.

DRACO A5OG 07-21-2011 08:52 PM

A couple of recent threads found the strainers were clogged at the fuel filter. Hope this is the case for you. at higher RPMs the the flow may be high enough as not to effect it but at lower RPMs a clogged Fuel Filter could starve her of fuel.

Didn't you or the wrench have to disconnect the fuel line to drop the engine? O2 would have oxidized and hardened the debris. Just a guess here.

CorsePerVita 07-21-2011 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 6150731)
A couple of recent threads found the strainers were clogged at the fuel filter. Hope this is the case for you. at higher RPMs the the flow may be high enough as not to effect it but at lower RPMs a clogged Fuel Filter could starve her of fuel.

Didn't you or the wrench have to disconnect the fuel line to drop the engine? O2 would have oxidized and hardened the debris. Just a guess here.

Yes, absolutely did have to disconnect to drop the engine. It was out for several days, so this is definitely a possibility. That makes sense. I'll get a fuel filter and replace it. Thankfully they don't seem to piss fuel when removing them so it's an easy thing to do on these cars. What you're describing makes a lot of sense, it sort of feels strong/weak/strong/weak depending on throttle, so that makes sense that high flow at higher rpms may ignore it.

DRACO A5OG 07-21-2011 09:01 PM

I didn't intend for you to throw money at it, try checking the strainer first just to make sure unless you know when you replaced the filter last. Just my 2 cents.

Hendog 07-21-2011 09:08 PM

How is it at idle?

You may have a vacuum leak at the intake gaskets.

CorsePerVita 07-21-2011 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 6150743)
I didn't intend for you to throw money at it, try checking the strainer first just to make sure unless you know when you replaced the filter last. Just my 2 cents.

How do I check the strainer, does the fuel filter come apart or is there a piece that simply cleans out? I just recall disconnecting the fuel lines to drop the engine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hendog (Post 6150757)
How is it at idle?

You may have a vacuum leak at the intake gaskets.

Seems to idle fine. Sometimes it idles just a wee little hair high, but for the most part, idles and runs fine.

DRACO A5OG 07-21-2011 09:18 PM

Remove and use compressed air to blow threw the out port, on my 3.2 it has an arrow sprayed on the outer shell. Place a paper towel on the inlet. The debris wil be evident. If not, you saved some money and will need to look some where else.

Before that look in the fitments.

CorsePerVita 07-21-2011 09:21 PM

Gotcha, I'll do that tomorrow in the morning. Thanks man!

vince_aust 07-22-2011 02:55 AM

Just spent months tracking down a similar problem - changed a bunch of things mainly because they were old and I wanted to update eliminate possibilities. Did fuel injector clean, new head temp sensor, new distributor cap,rotor, new fuel pump, filter and plugs. All improved but the problem ended up being leaks around inlet manifold. I only found it by spraying carby cleaner directly at base of inlets whilst shining a high intensity led torch (whilst car idling). Total parts for inlet gaskets $24.00 labour 2 days of my time.

CorsePerVita 07-22-2011 04:32 AM

Vince,

If it ends up being something along those lines is it an engine out type maintenance or can it be done with the engine in? That's a good point on testing it since the idle would raise I'd assume. I'll try this as well.

Tippy 07-22-2011 06:22 AM

What year car is this?

CorsePerVita 07-22-2011 12:11 PM

The 82' in my siggy. 3.0

Tippy 07-22-2011 01:35 PM

Yeah, I'm on mobile version so the sig doesn't show.

I'm of no help though, don't know the CIS cars.

vince_aust 07-22-2011 08:08 PM

My mechanic quoted me 6.5 hours work (@$110 p/hr). Im doing it this weekend - engine in!
Have a search on inlet gasket replace. there is some good threads on the problems and pitfalls. I also used my mechanic to test for leaks with a smoke machine to diagnose problem
An additional note - when I sprayed carby cleaner at each inlet I could see the cleaner being sucked in. The auto adjust on idle (87 911) meant mine idled ok anyway.

Hope this helps


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