Pelican Parts Forums

Pelican Parts Forums (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/)
-   Porsche 911 Technical Forum (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/)
-   -   Which book for wiring diagrams? (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/621880-book-wiring-diagrams.html)

chococrazy 07-29-2011 07:51 AM

Which book for wiring diagrams?
 
Turns out the 911 is going to need a wiring overhaul right now I'm not sure which book to buy Haynes or the Bentley. According to my mechanic he's going to need the one that's most complete because the other mechanic that was working on it did some funky stuff with the wiring, and half the fuse board is dead nearly nothing electrical is working.While doing this overhaul should I replace anything in there while it's open. The car has 21k miles so the interior is pristine but since it's been left sitting in my shop for so long it's a bit stiff in places. Also I have 1 more question since I'm just getting started in the world of porsche is there anyway to tell if this is an anniversary edition? The build date was 12/88 its silver metallic, and I believe a silk gray interior.
I'm really sorry for all the questions guys but I think the book would have been a good investment anyways.

megerian 07-29-2011 07:53 AM

Bentley

Josh D 07-29-2011 08:15 AM

X2 on the Bentley. This is the second German car I've bought a Bently for and they are well worth the money. I've never been too impressed with Haynes manuals, including for my old Jeeps.

chococrazy 07-29-2011 08:24 AM

Bentley is looking like the winner for this. Any info on my second question?

euro911sc 07-29-2011 09:10 AM

There is no substitute for the factory manual in this case. In general, I don't recomend the factory docs because I find them criminally inadequate. But, the multi page color sheets of the electrical diagram are great when diagnosing electrical gremlins!

911pcars 07-29-2011 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euro911sc (Post 6165541)
There is no substitute for the factory manual in this case. In general, I don't recomend the factory docs because I find them criminally inadequate. But, the multi page color sheets of the electrical diagram are great when diagnosing electrical gremlins!

+1
Porsche wiring diagrams are not the easiest to follow. Modern formats from other manufacturers simplify and segregate the major circuits to follow current paths and make diagnosis easier. The older Porsche diagrams typically miniaturize and squeeze all vehicle circuits on one page.

In addition, if the diagrams in the aftermarket pubs aren't in color, you're working at a great disadvantage.

Sherwood

chococrazy 07-29-2011 11:05 AM

Anyone know where I can track down the factory manual? My dealership apparently doesn't have one nor can they get me one, and pelican no longer carries them apparently?

rick-l 07-29-2011 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euro911sc (Post 6165541)
There is no substitute for the factory manual in this case. In general, I don't recomend the factory docs because I find them criminally inadequate. But, the multi page color sheets of the electrical diagram are great when diagnosing electrical gremlins!

The factory manual is over $400 dollars, is not color and looks like it was made on a printer that the fuzer was not hot enough (the pages stick together).

The only thing I like about it is it tells what harness the wires are in.

allaircooled 07-29-2011 11:28 AM

My factory manual does have the schematics in color, at least for my '75. Its the only section in my manual I have used thus far. Trying to follow the electrical diagrams in my Bentley manual for my BMW is a nightmare, at least for me. Not sure about the Bentley diagrams for Porsche's though.

86 911 Targa 07-29-2011 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allaircooled (Post 6165778)
My factory manual does have the schematics in color, at least for my '75. Its the only section in my manual I have used thus far. Trying to follow the electrical diagrams in my Bentley manual for my BMW is a nightmare, at least for me. Not sure about the Bentley diagrams for Porsche's though.

I have found various errors/omissions in the Bentley electrical diagrams for both our '86 and other M/Y.

Although my factory manual is not in color, it has been, for my needs, easy to read, and very accurate.

The referenced page-to-page (X-Y) co-ordinates do need a bit of acclimation by the user.

If any members have any corrections to the factory electrical circuits, please advise.

Another option is:

http://www.cannell.co.uk/Manuals.htm

Best,

Gerry

Here's part of a page from the factory manual.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1311970107.jpg

boyt911sc 07-29-2011 02:23 PM

Colored wiring diagrams.........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chococrazy (Post 6165358)
Turns out the 911 is going to need a wiring overhaul right now I'm not sure which book to buy Haynes or the Bentley. According to my mechanic he's going to need the one that's most complete because the other mechanic that was working on it did some funky stuff with the wiring, and half the fuse board is dead nearly nothing electrical is working.While doing this overhaul should I replace anything in there while it's open. The car has 21k miles so the interior is pristine but since it's been left sitting in my shop for so long it's a bit stiff in places. Also I have 1 more question since I'm just getting started in the world of porsche is there anyway to tell if this is an anniversary edition? The build date was 12/88 its silver metallic, and I believe a silk gray interior.
I'm really sorry for all the questions guys but I think the book would have been a good investment anyways.


chococrazy,

Using a colored wiring diagram is a lot better than a black and white copy. The factory colored wiring diagram so far is the best reference (wiring) compared to any reference shop manuals (Haynes, Bentley, etc.) in the market today. I agree that it is sometimes not easy to read or follow the factory wiring diagrams if you are not familiar with the schematics. Remember that these wiring diagrams were intended for 'technicians' with some training and experience.

Try to find someone with a factory manual and make a copy of the wiring diagrams if you don't want to buy the multi-volume factory manuals which costs a lot more. The colored wiring diagram/s it self are so useful and helpful to me that it pays to have one. For 911 electrical troubleshooting, these factory colored wiring diagrams/schematics are my bread and butter.

Tony

rick-l 07-29-2011 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boyt911sc (Post 6166076)
Using a colored wiring diagram is a lot better than a black and white copy. The factory colored wiring diagram so far is the best reference (wiring) compared to any reference shop manuals (Haynes, Bentley, etc.) in the market today. .

If you find one in color for an 88 let me know. Mine looks just like 86 911 Targa

steely 07-29-2011 04:34 PM

I want the one (wiring diagram) Gerry has - it looks more professional/easier to read than the cartoons Bentley uses.

chococrazy, consider posting your other questions in separate posts/threads - I'd suggest including your VIN too WRT the anniversary question.

Keep an eye open in the classifieds here and on flea-bay for the factory manual.

86 911 Targa 07-29-2011 05:12 PM

Electrical
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steely (Post 6166286)
I want the one (wiring diagram) Gerry has - it looks more professional/easier to read than the cartoons Bentley uses.

chococrazy, consider posting your other questions in separate posts/threads - I'd suggest including your VIN too WRT the anniversary question.

Keep an eye open in the classifieds here and on flea-bay for the factory manual.

Steely,

Here is the P/N for the wiring diagram.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1311988345.jpg

steely 07-29-2011 05:50 PM

Awesome - Thank you sir!

chococrazy 07-30-2011 11:40 AM

Are the relays on top of the fuses in the fuse panel all suppose to be red? I've seen conflicting information for this.
Gerry I also got you those pictures of the fuse box you needed I'll email you those ASAP.

trconway 07-31-2011 06:50 AM

wiring diagrams
 
I got one of these for my car. Take a look and let me know what you think:
Porsche Automobile Wiring Diagrams, Color, Laminated, 11" x 17"


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:16 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website


DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.