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If I could just order a set of new 17 inch Forged Fuchs replicas from Zuffenhaus from stock I would. I am not willing to wait months or years to get something I paid for.

I guess I will have to go with all season tires that are tread-wear 300. Not very good traction but I just can't do the tread-wear 100 or less autocross only tires. I drive my car on the highway and around town.
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After looking a lot I gave up on finding high performance summer tires. I drive my car on the street & on long trips. I will be driving to Salt Lake city and back this summer. The autocross tires with tread wear of 100 and less are great for the track but not good in the rain, and they would be destroyed in no time on the highway.

I ended up ordering a set of the Toyo Proxes 4 A/s. 89.45 for the fronts, 101.45 rears. 4 tires deliverd to my door $ 381.80.

Not the best choice for what I want in a tire but that is all that is available for the sizes I want.

And for those that are curoius I got them from (thetireclub.com)
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Purchased Yoko S Drives at Tire Rack for my 914 and 911 and they are a competent tire for aggressive street work. They have adequate grip in wet, and really hang in there in dry. Bought 55s as I had a bad experience with the AVS in 60s with rebound out of the corners. These still have a bit but they are manageable. Not the worlds best but competent.
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Is nobody using Toyo R888's for the weekend driver and canyon runner? They come in a 235/50/15 and 225/50/15. I thought that might be a good combination for my hot rod-in process.

I'd prefer a 245 and 225, but they don't seem to exist in a 15" ULTRA-performance summer tire (just pure track tires). I have some VERY nice 15" polished Fuchs I picked up from Dave at TRE. I hate to dump them because of a lack of 15" tire choice.
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The R888 was an option but they have a treadwear of 100. They would be great for autocross or short drives. They are expensive and would be nothing but tire dust on a 5,000 mile road trip.
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The R888 was an option but they have a treadwear of 100. They would be great for autocross or short drives. They are expensive and would be nothing but tire dust on a 5,000 mile road trip.
I will be doing some open track days, and the POC Laguna Seca event, but do not intend to do a 5,000 road trip. I know the R888's 100 treadwear is going to wear quickly, but what choices do we have with 15" rims?

With my flares, 225's and 205's will look like bicycle tires under this thing.
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Old BFG comps on my old carbed SC give great turn in. Lots of tread left but they are old. They will stay on the car till separation because I haven't found a replacement with decent turn in. The second favorite tire in my stable is the Toyo R888. Not a fast driver, but I like razor sharp response. Also loved the old Blue Streak Sports Car Specials with R6 retreads and those were high aspect ratio tires and not the least bit floaty.

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I am in the same boat myself. I have a 1980 SC.
The previous owner put a set of 205/55 and 225/50 15" Dunlop SP9000 on. Its the worst tyre I have ever had on a 911. Harsh, bouncy, slidey and completely unpredictable under hard braking.
I used to have Kumho KH11 (205/60 and 225/60) long ago that I really liked. They were way better than Pirelli P6000 and Michelin Pilot Primacy. I couldn't find KH11 anymore as its quite an old tyre

I decided to get a set of original 16" fuchs which I was lucky to get hold of immediately. I will still keep the cookie cutters in the garage for originality.
The tyres (in the correct sizes as above, but 16") I am looking at in order of preference after some reading: Bridgestone RE002, Kumho KU31, Yokohama Nuova AD08. There are a few others in that size still, but I want the grippiest road tires I can get as my driving style is for fun. That means cornering is paramount.
The RE002 seems to be a pretty amazing all round tire from reviews. It may be a bit overkill for the SC, but I think its best to buy the best tire you can.
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I just had a set of 7x15 and 8x15 Fuchs refinished in the RSR finish. I bought Falken ZIEX ZE912 all season performance tires in 195/65/15 and 215/60/15. This is how that combination looks on a 1989 3.2 cabriolet. The combination rides very well for daily driving and is quiet even at high speeds on the highway. Quite a bit bouncier and not as well controlled in the turns as my original 7x16 and 8x16 Fuchs with 205/55/16 and 225/50/16 Michelin PE2s on them, but I think a nice look and a nice change for now.
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Okay this is getting to be a real problem. I had Gforce Sports on the car, 205/55x15 front and 225/50x15 rear which is a perfect fit but now there's apparently NOTHING you can buy as a set in these sizes. Any luck?
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Check Falken and Toyo's websites.
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Falken - Ziex ZE-912

205/55R15 88V BW ZIEX ZE-912 FALKEN 2055515 205/55/15
225/50R15 91V BW ZIEX ZE-912 FALKEN 2255015 225/50/15


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Check Falken and Toyo's websites.

I've had bad luck with both these brands in street tires
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15" high-performance tires (excluding DOT race tires) are darned near extinct now in useful sizes for flared cars such as 225/50-15.

Given that the various tire manufacturers used to make such things and still have all the tooling to do some production runs, I would think that a concerted effort by the people who have read this thread to date would result in one of these makers to do a short run of these tires. Might not be real inexpensive, however much cheaper than sourcing larger wheels, not to mention the adverse performance effects of 16" and larger tires.

I'd strongly encourage anyone reading this thread to e-mail tire manufacturers such as Dunlop, BFG, and Pirelli who have most recently made grippy max performance tires in these sizes to continue supplying a viable marketplace.

I've done my part by constantly calling, cajoling and e-mailing these people to make some 215/50-15 and 225/50-15 sizes to match their 195/55-15 & 205/50-15 offerings. If the 6300 folks who have read this all sent e-mails asking for a range of 15" sizes in max performance tires, I think that would get their attention and you'd have some choices.

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Steve, you've articulated my thoughts exactly! Surely if there's profit in remanufacturing Fuchs copies in various sizes, then there must be a market for remanufacturing some earlier tech tyres for which the tooling exists! I thought this was something Pirelli were looking at?

I've got a set of Michelin TBs on order which fit the bill, but at $500 a corner I can't maintain that budget... The Avons are similar coin
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My 1993 Celica Alltrac also has an odd size that I would like tires for. 215/50/15.

Not so long ago Japan still has these tires available but only in Japan. I wonder if someone could convince a supplier over there to send a shipload over. No DOT numbers but who looks? Track only guys would appreciate it in any case.
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John,

I see more than 6500 hits on this thread and that tells me there is some significant interest here. If only those six thousand people would take a few minutes to send the manufacturers a plea and demand for these sizes,......................it would do wonders.

I think the tire makers have no idea about the continuing demand for good 15" max-performance tires and will not do anything unless they receive overwhelming feedback to that effect. With 6K reads here, that's enough to get their attention if everyone follows up.
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If only those six thousand people would take a few minutes to send the manufacturers a plea and demand for these sizes,......................it would do wonders.
Steve, do you have any email addresses, or have you just used their respective website contacts? I will definitely send a few emails

Here in Australia the "historics" are the fastest growing of all the motorsport categories - it must be similar in Europe and the US surely?
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Steve is right. We can do this!

So... I wonder what size tires we should approach them about making? We should also gather a list of email addresses that these requests should be sent to.

205/50R15

205/55R15

225/50R15

245/50R15

245/45R15

275/40R15

295/40R15

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Hi John,

I've fired off e-mails to the last manufacturers' of good 15" tires (Dunlop, BFG, Yokohama, Bridgestone) through their websites, followed by phone calls to upper sales management. This prevents such things from being ignored. Tell them these don't even need to be their latest generation of max-performance tires; simply re-manufacture the SP8000, G-Force, 008, etc.

FWIW,...I've doing this several times a year to keep this issue up on their "radar".



John,

Thats a good list, however from a realistic POV, I'd request the 205's to 245's as those are what they most recently produced and are likely to still have the molds handy.

The 275 and 295's are covered by the Michelin TB05 & TB15 so they may not consider that high priority like the smaller ones.
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