Help! Im new and Im leaking!

[scfeind]

Hello, I am new to the forum but have been a long time reader as this is apparently where all the Porsche geniuses spend all there time. So long story short my little brother took my 911 out for a spin and the fan belt snapped and he didnt notice the red light for about a half mile. He finally pulled over and called me and i had her towed back to the house (no ones is ever drivin her but me ever again..) She seemed to still start up and run ok so I am praying there was no major engine damage but over the next couple days she started just pouring oil from 2 seperate oil lines from what i can tell. The first leak i could see was coming from the point where the line bends under the bottom right side of the engine and the second seemed to be coming from the line that passes next to the rear passanger side shock absorber (see pictures)..

I was hoping you guys could help me identify which lines and parts im going to need to replace. Just the lines that seem to be leaking or the ones they are connected to as well and if there are any other things that im going to forget since im sure someone else here has obviously been through this before. Hopefully im not totally screwed. I searched the tech artichles but didnt find any that seemed to match my issue so hear i am. And I also read somewhere that when you upgrading to SSI's that you need to backdate one of the oil lines and I was wondering if i am planning on doing that should i just get that particular oil line now?

PS as i said i am new to the forum, My name is Taylor, I am 24 years old and i live in the pacific northwest/seattle area. I am and have been a porsche freak since i was small and even tho this is my first porsche it will definetly not be my last. I have admired the super intelligent people on this forum for a long time so hopefully you guys can help me get her back on the road. Thanks again and of course any info or advice will be much appreciated!

here is a pic of her since im introducing myself (an yea i kno i need to fix that darn foglight!)





and here are the pics of my mini nightmare..






and here is the other line, the last shot was taken from between my rear passanger tire and the rear fender




oh and while im posting does anyone know where I can find a replacment tire for the stock spare wheel? the original tire that is on there doesnt seem to be in all that terrible condition i just dont know if i completely trust it. I have never even seen a tire with that shape before. What is with the huge divot in the side?
Thanks again in advance, every problem i have had in the past I have solved simpy by searching old posts cus you guys are soooo legit!

[Cairo94507]

It does not look to me like either of those leaks is new or fresh. Did you recently add oil or something to the car and perhaps overfill it? Nice looking car BTW.

[Rot 911]

I agree, those pictures show some long time leaks. When you say "pouring" do you mean you had pools of oil on the ground, or are you just saying this because there is oil all over the hoses?

[Flat6pac]

The oil line is standard replacement parts. The problem is, on the thermostat that line is behind the tank line so you have to remove the tank line first. If they dont come loose easily you need to cut the nut length ways so to release the steel hold on the aluminum housing.
Its best to order boith lines and install and you lll not have to replace again in the future.
Bruce

[scfeind]

Sorry totally forgot to mention that, I have been out of town for most of the summer and i just got back into town recently. this happened about 4 or 5 weeks ago. and no its not pouring i was just being dramatic, very slow drips. and thanks for the complement, some people hate the brown but i love it!

[scfeind]

I wasnt able to take these pictures until yesterday so yea it has been leaking for a while now.

[scfeind]

I havent added any oil since the leak but i do know that the level was correct before this little incident.

[Targa Time]

Nice looking car! I'm a big fan of colors other than black, white and red.

As for the question about replacing the oil line with the backdate... if my memory serves me right,(which it seldom does) the backdate oil line which runs across the front of the engine won't fit with the stock SC exhaust. It barely fits with the SSI! Maybe the picture will help you decide.

[tobluforu]

If you think this might be to much for you and you are close to 7613 Greenwood Ave. N.
Seattle, WA, then take it to JW.

[scfeind]

Is JW a shop or a guy here on the forum?

[pete3799]

+1
Replace both lines and heed Bruce's warning about splitting the nuts to avoid stripping the threads on the thermostat and oil tank.

[livi]

I may misunderstand what you wrote about what happened, but is it correct that the car was driven for half a mile with a broken fan belt? Like with no cooling fan working?
If that is the case I would be more afraid of what the over heating may have resulted in.

But then I am a tech ignorant and those in the know will correct me if my fears are exaggerated.

Good luck! Its a beautiful 911!

[scfeind]

Yes it was driven between a 1/4 an 1/2 mile after the belt broke. But then again i wasnt driving so i can only go off what I was told. Any sure fire ways to know if the overheating caused any major damage? the car never died or started running bad before it was turned off. He was in the middle of coasting on a long off ramp when it happened. He just pulled into a parking lot that was about 40 feet from the end of the off ramp and turned it off and called me and i called the tow truck..

Pete an Bruce, So im assuming if i do end up stripping those threads im in for a much larger nightmare. I was assuming I would handle this job myself. I might not have access to a life and might just be trying to handle it with her on jack stands, Im just curion as to what all i will need part and tool wise to cover everything, an thanks again, she needs some little things but i couldnt be happier with how she looks after i got done wax'n an polishin

[Flat6pac]

You need a 36mm open end or a 12 inch adjustable but some 12s dont open enough. You need a diegrinder or high speed cutter, air or electric to grind a slice in the nut to relieve the threads.
Bruce

[scfeind]

And part wise do i need anything besides those two lines? I was having trouble figuring out exactly which lines to order. there are so many to choose from hah

[CCM911]

Use a Dremel tool with a cutting wheel to get the nut off the thermostat housing. It is not difficult at all.

Have you started the car since the belt broke? If so, did you hear any odd noises that weren't there before? If not, I would imagine that there was no damage done.

[tobluforu]

Originally Posted by scfeind

Is JW a shop or a guy here on the forum?

JW is a porsche mechanic/shop and he posts here all the time. You have one of the best wrenches in your area if need be.

[2Utes]

JW = John Walker
He is an amazing resource on this forum and for Porsche owners around the Seattle area.

[euro911sc]

I would say your oil got hotter than it has in the past and perhaps loosened up the grime on the hoses enough so it could leak out again

Using a dremel is easier than a cutuff tool. The dremel is smaller and it is easier to handle so you dont cut into the threads of the t-stat. It is tight in there.

The t-stat is aluminum and the nut on the lines is steel so if you wrench the nut the alum. threads usually come with it and you are hosed... The idea is to cut a slot in the nut perpendicular to the threads, but not into the threads of the t-stat. You can then use a cold chisel into the slot to break the nut open. This should loosen the nut's grip on the t-stat enough so you can remove the nut and leave the threads in good shape. Somewhat same procedure on oil tank.

Clean everything up well and make sure the threads on the t-stat are good to go. You don't want to cross-thread it after all the hard work is done

-Michael

[911Freak]

All good info here, only things I would add are:

Power wash the underside of the engine BEFORE R&R oil lines, use simple green or similar to help cut the caked oil grease, any citrus cleaner should do the trick.

It looks like you might need valve cover gaskets and the unholy trinity may need to be addressed as well. A clean engine and a good drive should shed some light onto what is leaking other then the known hoses.

Nice 911 btw!