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lmw 09-06-2011 06:47 AM

Before and after a PCA DE event
 
Hello again,

So what we did, to show how much you can really learn from these PCA DE events, is we put side by side video showing the beginning of the track event and at the end of the track event. These are two videos of two different drivers in two different cars that have never been to Watkins Glen before. It is not the best lap vs. the worst lap, just the first run group vs. the last. This was a three day Riesentoter PCA event at Watkins Glen.

Thanks for watching

Porsche 911
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Porsche 944 (I know its not a 911 thought you might still enjoy watching):D
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Josh D 09-06-2011 07:36 AM

That was cool to watch the before and after and see how much speed was gained with practice.

The 944 was way to quiet though!!

Vincent Hill 09-06-2011 09:06 AM

The Movement in the 911 Steering wheel is Purely Porsche 911 in a turn over a few bumps where you can totally feel what the car is "Thinking" about doing!

83_Silberpfeil 09-06-2011 10:25 AM

Very interesting comparison of before and after --- there was definitely improvement at the 3rd day. Thanks for posting. It made me wonder though --- how much of the improvement was attributed to familiarity/comfort with the course after 3 days vs skill/training?

Brian 162 09-06-2011 05:27 PM

To answer your question in my experience I would say both.When I instruct I can feel the speed increasing ( and smoothness) as the weekend progresses.

dan79brooklyn 09-06-2011 05:48 PM

Thanks for the videos. I spent only one day driving the Glen with the PCA, It's my favorite track.
Very challenging and FAST!

I noticed the 911 driver constantly moving his hands on the steering wheel.

It was my understanding that this is usually not a good idea (unless in rallying) ?

paulgtr 09-06-2011 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 83_Silberpfeil (Post 6239170)
Very interesting comparison of before and after --- there was definitely improvement at the 3rd day. Thanks for posting. It made me wonder though --- how much of the improvement was attributed to familiarity/comfort with the course after 3 days vs skill/training?

I think DE events are all about unlocking your potential in the initial stages. the skill set comes later once you can exploit your natural potential.
I've been going to lime rock almost every couple weeks this summer and my confidence is growing with each lap as I feel more comfortable with the speed through the corners and how the car feels in transitions.
but as far as skills are concerned, I think I am at the base of the mountain. I'm not approaching threshold braking by any means, nor am I working on heel and toe downshifting. I still rely on following the cones to make sure I am on line as well, so my skill at judging when to turn in has not been worked on either.
the true test would be to move right away to an unfamiliar track and see how well I coped.

ja78911sc 09-06-2011 06:21 PM

Thanks for sharing.

I think the racing gloves shaved ten seconds off his time ;)

boyt911sc 09-06-2011 06:44 PM

I noticed that too........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dan79brooklyn (Post 6240087)
Thanks for the videos. I spent only one day driving the Glen with the PCA, It's my favorite track.
Very challenging and FAST!

I noticed the 911 driver constantly moving his hands on the steering wheel.

It was my understanding that this is usually not a good idea (unless in rallying) ?

That's the same thing my instructor corrected me in my very first DE. So I've been using the 10 & 2 o'clock grip on the track and becomes a habit even on my daily commute.

Tony

NOLAsc 09-06-2011 06:53 PM

Very nice progression. I'd like to know more about the 911 in the, well, in the 911 video. Pretty track-ready for a virgin???

paulgtr 09-06-2011 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOLAsc (Post 6240198)
Very nice progression. I'd like to know more about the 911 in the, well, in the 911 video. Pretty track-ready for a virgin???

here's the link to the build on the orange car. great idea of a car. wish I knew the secrets about the 3.6 induction on the 3.2...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/551952-brey-krause-new-project-car.html

lmw 09-07-2011 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOLAsc (Post 6240198)
Very nice progression. I'd like to know more about the 911 in the, well, in the 911 video. Pretty track-ready for a virgin???

Here is a link to our website that tells you all about it.

rattlsnak 09-07-2011 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boyt911sc (Post 6240176)
That's the same thing my instructor corrected me in my very first DE. So I've been using the 10 & 2 o'clock grip on the track and becomes a habit even on my daily commute.

Tony

Thank you!! The other way wont fly in most clubs.

Determined 09-07-2011 08:32 PM

bump to subscribe, great video.


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