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Relief from the grinder vibrations

Hot, Hot Hot !!
Removing the old sound deadening or tar or whatever the heck they spray on these old cars. I had a special technique. I would hold a propane torch in my left hand heat a spot up and then dive in with the metal scraper I had in my right hand. Kinda heat,heat,heat, and then dive in and scrape, scrape, scrape kinda zig zag zig zag. I was constantly amazed that when I ran out of coordination and zigged when I meant to zag you could always smell the hair on your arm burn just a millisecond before your brain registered pain to confirm that yes, you just stuck your right hand or wrist into the flame, again! Am I the only one who suffers from coordination deficit injuries during these restoration projects?



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Old 11-29-2011, 02:32 PM
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Oh Yeah, that's the ticket. You aren't the only one with FerdinanDisease. My friend has a '68 field car in much the same condition, thank God he lives 2,000 miles away from me as my '67 has not quite as bad as this. Even still the guy who's going to help me with this task calls it a monumental task (that's Mon, U Mental) A little bit of arm twisting, beer and a promise to let him drive it is all that it took to get him on board.
That is beautiful work that you guys are doing I've learned a few lessons here form your "fearless" work. I've woken up several nights in a deep sweat dreaming about the nightmare of work that faces me, but your project gives me the courage to see the project through to the end. Canada uses plenty of salt on the roads and these ol' girls need to be represented here, I tip my hat to you, to keep a vibrant example of both Ferd's work and your own alive. Now, about that twitch on the left side of my face...........
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You, sir, are a saint.
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Glad to see you got a thread started for this one Greg! Now hurry up and get it all caught up so everyone can see where she is at these days ! Can't wait to see it with more paint on it...
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Not only is your work on the Porsche just awesome, but Nova Scotia looks like a really nice place to live.
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My God what a project. Looking forward to more post on this one.
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Very, very nice work! Really glad to see an old car being saved!

Make sure you check on the controls and fuel line running in the tunnel. Very easy to get to now yet a real PITA once everything is back together. NOW is the time to make sure its all right...

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Very, very nice work! Really glad to see an old car being saved!

Make sure you check on the controls and fuel line running in the tunnel. Very easy to get to now yet a real PITA once everything is back together. NOW is the time to make sure its all right...

Joe A

I think we got all the tunnel stuff straightened away when it was easy. If anyone sees anything that we should think of or something we missed. Please, don't by shy to speak up. We are learning as we go !!


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Glad to see you got a thread started for this one Greg! Now hurry up and get it all caught up so everyone can see where she is at these days ! Can't wait to see it with more paint on it...

Hi Doug,

Still waiting on the paint but I'll get caught up to that point on the posting soon. I find it is a slow process uploading the photos. Used to be I just neglected my family when I was working on the car. Now I am neglecting them posting this thread after working on the car. I think they may be right about me. I fear there is no cure. I will say posting is fun and it's really nice to get encouraging comments.
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Another Parts car.

This find was a jewel. Picked up for a song and a little digging. Only you fellow Pelicanites would understand. I would be embarrassed to say what was paid. Anyway it was a 72T and absolutely rotten but someone had done some interesting mods years ago some great for me and some depressing. The bad news, is that some of the panels were not original to the car and someone "updated" the car probably in the 80's with all the short hood stuff. Big bumpers and pads and all. The totally awesome part was the car also had a 100 litre tank, the 72 oil system, early S Recaros ( yippie I a ) albeit poorly covered but great cores, S gauges, S Calipers etc., a 2.2 short stroker for down the road, and the metal SC flares were useful for a different project Larry had on the go.

Early Christmas !!







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A little more fabrication

The front corners where the fenders attached were just plain gone so they had to be built up from scratch.




Also had to make sure we had good metal in the rear quarters.


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Teaser for next posting

Guess what we are doing next?

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Great work, nice to see that some people are both talented and fearless. Another one saved. Looking forward to more pictures on the bead blasting and painting.

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Reminds me of my ongoing project only yours was worse, haha. Keep on posting.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/paint-bodywork-discussion-forum/524957-garage-barn-find.html

Holy Cow !! merbesfield,

I think your car was way better than mine but it looks like you had to do much of the same work. Man what a marathon. I will keep watching to see how it all works out !! Your thread is very, very useful to me, thanks for posting.
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Last years Christmas Holiday

I spent 3 full days over last Christmas holidays learning how to media blast. at first it's way cool to see the rust disappear in front of your eyes... but it's hard work and tiring. So cool to see a multi colour tub, mostly rusty orange, where all the welds and fresh metal have gotten covered with recent flash rust. Happily all that comes off quickly. I was also thrilled by how few new problem areas showed up during the media blasting. Remarkably, this tub was pretty good in the areas where rain water had not laid for years.

Here are some pics.






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More clean metal





Next up primer.
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That torsion bar is looking like it could be weak from all that sitting in a field, looks like plenty of rust there. I was snooping on another thread regarding torsion tube failure. It would be a pity if that tube failed once all is back together. Maybe a good time to look at coilovers? Here's the thread of the dead tube

Torsion tube failure - and repair - the project

Probably woth consudering given the age of the car. Hope this helps.
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One thing that some Porsche guys said to me before I sand blasted my 912 tub was that sand will get in places you don't want it and cause future rust. Well after cutting open all the lower parts to my tub I have to admit they are 100% correct. I thought I took lots of precautions to stop sand from entering, but no way. For me it was not an issue bc I was able to blow/vacuum it all out, but if you are not opening all those areas, beware, the sand is sitting in there holding the moisture. No way you are going to get it out. Let me also be clear that I don't think there is a better way of removing rust from a project car, just understand what is happening and figure out how to get the sand out. Good luck and keep up the good work.

Here is my ongoing project.

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GREAT work!
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I've been looking at alternatives to sandblasting to reduce panel bending and pitting when I came across soda blasting, which is probably the best of the media blasting process, there is plenty of info available, YouTube is a decent source as well. Then I came across this

BDI Canada CO2 Technologies - CO2 Dry Ice Blasting

Dry Ice Blasting. Follow the link, there is a training video for their there that offers insight into the process. Other than the leftover of whatever is stripped, paint in our case, there is no media to clean up and it is as effective as mediablasting and much more versatile, gentle enough to clean mold from books, paint from buildings, etc.
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