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HFR_Racer 02-19-2012 04:38 PM

I can only get -0.5 camber on the left-rear... :(
 
I can't get enough neg. camber on the LR of my '87 930. I just got done installing the Elephant Racing OE style rubber bushings and had my car aligned by the local wrench.

I can't get enough negative camber on the left-rear. All other corners are ok.

I've adjusted the camber to ( max. negative ) by aiming the eccentric lobe for he camber adjuster down. This rotates the banana arm clockwise relative to the rear axle center.

NOTE: THE STATEMENT ABOVE WAS MY MISTAKE... THE ECCENTRIC LOBE SHOULD BE POINTED UPWARD TO INCREASE NEGATIVE CAMBER. MY ISSUE IS FIXED NOW SINCE I FIGURED OUT HOW TO ADJUST IT :)

My ride height is 25" front and 25 1/2" rear to the fender lips with ~1.2 degrees of rake. The car is obviously low so I would think that more negative camber should be easy???

Please enlighten me on what I might be missing. I do understand how the eccentrics are intended to work.

My next option is Camber Max adjusters.. SmileWavyhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1329701920.jpg

wildcat077 02-19-2012 07:10 PM

Surprising that your "local" wrench aligned your car and couldn't figure out how to get more - camber ...
There has to be an obvious reason as you should easily be able to get -2 degrees in the rear,i would suggest you take your car to a real Porsche shop who has experience in alignments and i'm sure you will get the results you are looking for !

Just sayin ...

Cheers !
Phil

rusnak 02-19-2012 07:14 PM

Tighten the pinch bolts, then loosen them just enough to let the camber bolt move the arm.

tobluforu 02-20-2012 03:35 AM

What were you able to get camber wise before the bushing install?

Flieger 02-20-2012 10:21 AM

Could be a bent trailing arm.

HFR_Racer 02-20-2012 11:32 AM

I likely had 2 degrees before since the inside edges of my tires were flat worn out and the outside had full tread. When you refer to the trailing arm I assume that you mean the aluminum (banana) arm and not the spring plate. Correct.

I do not believe that the banana arm is bent. The car has not been wrecked.

I did not replace the bushings on the banana arms (near the center of the torsion bar tube). I only replaced the spring plate bushings since I've read on this board that the banana arm bushings on a 90k mile car usually look good.

Maybe this isn't a true statement?

All advice is wanted.. :)

HFR_Racer 02-20-2012 11:39 AM

Thanks for the tip Phil.... I'll certainly consider your advice. :)

Flieger 02-20-2012 11:56 AM

Traiing arms (bananas) can be bent simply from an especially severe impact like a big pothole at 80 mph or curb hopping on a racetrack. The steel ones will bend, but the Aluminum ones as I understand will fail (break/fracture) before being bent very significantly,

tobluforu 02-20-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flieger (Post 6570556)
Traiing arms (bananas) can be bent simply from an especially severe impact like a big pothole at 80 mph or curb hopping on a racetrack. The steel ones will bend, but the Aluminum ones as I understand will fail (break/fracture) before being bent very significantly,

Happened to me.

Flieger 02-20-2012 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobluforu (Post 6570603)
Happened to me.

Bend or break?

wildcat077 02-20-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HFR_Racer (Post 6570527)
Thanks for the tip Phil.... I'll certainly consider your advice. :)

I just ordered a set of cambermax adjusters for my car,from the feedback i read, it seems like you can't go wrong with them ...

My car will only be out in April for another alignment and corner balance so i won't be able to comment on them yet !

Cheers !
Phil

tobluforu 02-20-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flieger (Post 6570612)
Bend or break?

Bent the crap out of it, got a little to sideways coming out of a turn and just nicked a curb with my rear wheel. Got home, Fuch scraped to hell, 0 camber.

HFR_Racer 02-20-2012 03:17 PM

I've figured it out.. I was turning the eccentric lobe downward... I needed to turn the ecentric lobe upward which forces the aluminum housing upward.

My bad..... I was able to get 1.5 degrees easily. With the adjuster turned maximum ( for positive camber ), I was only able to get ~ 0.5 degree ( neg. camber ).

Thanks to all that commented...

I agree that the banana arm might break rather then bent.

I've been told that you only need camber max if your trying to get more than 2.0 ~ 2.5 degrees of negative camber. My 930 is a street car, not a track car mostly. I don't need that much camber.


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