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whitelightnin 02-23-2012 02:45 PM

WARNING-Rarly8 Mods Cause Unusual Problems
 
A few months ago I had some modifications done to my 89 930 Cabriolet and have experienced an unusually puzzling problem. I had Brian Bodart install his recommended mods for my car that he said would transform the car. The mods included his equal length headers, a K27 turbo, his street muffler, and his adjustable WUR, which was dyno tuned by Lou Smith in Denver, NC. Well, it did transform the car into a much more drivable car with much less turbo lag and over 100 more hp. The problem with these mods is that my rear tires started out with good tread but since the "transformation" the tires have worn out in rapid fashion causing me to have to buy new tires. I don't get the connection. Can anyone tell me how these modifications can affect my tires? I am puzzled.

Lukesportsman 02-23-2012 03:16 PM

I'd ask Brian for some type of compensation. Prob the reason he sold his gorgeous red car. Though you'd have thought he had big enough tires on that SC to cure this phenom. Shame on Brian for bringing such issues to market. Possibly a switch to a G50 with a more aggressive 1st gear could cure this???

Pierre911SC 02-23-2012 03:17 PM

Hello Whitelightnin,

I am getting install a set of headers 1 5/8" from Brian Bodart (Rarly8)(Piece of art).
Since my car is not turbo, I expect the tyres to live longer than your setup.
I would be very happy to have the output power that you are getting and
to change tires as often as required.
Good for you, have fun.
PS I think that phenomena of tires going bald is called HP

Regards
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1330042235.jpg

whitelightnin 02-23-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukesportsman (Post 6578133)
I'd ask Brian for some type of compensation. Prob the reason he sold his gorgeous red car. Though you'd have thought he had big enough tires on that SC to cure this phenom. Shame on Brian for bringing such issues to market. Possibly a switch to a G50 with a more aggressive 1st gear could cure this???

89 930 has the G50 so that is not the solution.

JJ 911SC 02-23-2012 03:29 PM

Jackrabbit start...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1330043344.jpg

Lukesportsman 02-23-2012 03:35 PM

If you removed the posi unit, you'd likely prolong the life of one of your tires. This would cut maintenance in half! Why I have never thought of this before escapes me.

Bob Kontak 02-23-2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre911SC (Post 6578135)
PS I think that phenomena of tires going bald is called HP

Right, like 350+ hp is going to wear out rear tires on a Porsche 930. That is just silly talk. (I want them headers for my 81)

Seriously, It's a shame he kept this hidden from you. I'll bet you are not the first.

You are definitely sure it's the rear tires?

whitelightnin 02-23-2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ 911SC (Post 6578194)

It is not the jackrabbit starts. It is the shift from first to second and the shift from 2nd to 3rd. I think Brian should provide a disclaimer for the phenomena before someone makes these modifications. One of the main problems with wearing out these tires is finding the correct tire. The only tire that I could find that provide the original tire size was Nexen, manufactured in S. Korea

dshepp806 02-23-2012 03:43 PM

I don't get it,..wear from what/where? HP?

What kinda' "wear"?

Doyle

whitelightnin 02-23-2012 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dshepp806 (Post 6578234)
I don't get it,..wear from what/where? HP?

What kinda' "wear"?

Doyle

Like no tread left.

patkeefe 02-23-2012 03:51 PM

Because you're running the crap out of it now. Why else would your tires wear?

whitelightnin 02-23-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patkeefe (Post 6578261)
Because you're running the crap out of it now. Why else would your tires wear?

Nobody wants crap in their tires. Makes em smell bad,

Bob Kontak 02-23-2012 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patkeefe (Post 6578261)
Because you're running the crap out of it now.

An assumption only.

patkeefe 02-23-2012 04:15 PM

Wear is proportional to use, in a basic sense. Park it in the garage, and the tires never wear. Drive it like my 89 year old mom and they won't wear. If you take it to the track you will see definitive wear patterns towards the edges of the tires. Get a really good driving 930 with an extra 100HP, you will wear the rears. You have the capability to transfer weight to the rear tires much faster now. It may be imperceptible to you, but the car knows it dynamically. This shows up in the tires. Are you noticing more understeer now on throttle in a turn?

BTW, what size are the rears? I have had various Korean and Japanese tires, al of which gripped well and wore really fast. I wear out Sumitomos on my stock Boxster in six months...the fronts last two years. My Victorracers have held up very well, however.

ratpiper71T 02-23-2012 05:33 PM

Is this a joke thread? If not, maybe providing more specific details might bring home the point. Like mileage and type of wear. Pics?

al lkosmal 02-23-2012 05:39 PM

whitelightnin,
everyone knows that when you modify the finely engineered products from Porsche........................you will burn!!!!!

regards,
al

Flieger 02-23-2012 05:43 PM

Do they look like this?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1330051344.jpg
I am also experiencing this phenomenon but I have no RarelyL8 components on my car. Therefore your issue cannot be related to RarelyL8 products.

JJ 911SC 02-23-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitelightnin (Post 6578224)
It is not the jackrabbit starts. It is the shift from first to second and the shift from 2nd to 3rd...

Well, they last a bit longer with a NA ;)

Hcarraro 02-24-2012 03:22 AM

Brian Bodart is my new best friend

Henry

whitelightnin 02-24-2012 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dshepp806 (Post 6578234)
I don't get it,..wear from what/where? HP?

What kinda' "wear"?

Doyle

Even wear all the way across down to no tread left.


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