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56 nomad 03-28-2012 07:00 AM

still no reading from dwell test
 
hello,
i have read many of the posts relating to cis and testing the settings with a dwell meter.
i have tried 2 different and working dwell meters (older sears models) and have been unable to obtain a reading from the test port.....have read some others have had this same problem.
i know i need to trace this down, where to start?
thanks , ben

john walker's workshop 03-28-2012 07:45 AM

no points, so no dwell.

psalt 03-28-2012 07:50 AM

John, he means testing the Lambda FV duty cycle with a dwell meter on an 83 SC.

Ben, try pin 17 at the ECU. GRN/WHT.

56 nomad 03-28-2012 08:47 AM

paul,
will give it a try, would you just clip to the wire or do you hace to jump it...sounds like i also have to pull the seat out..is that right? any thougts as to why no reading at the port in the engine bay, could this non read cause a problem? gas milage is a little low10 to 11mpg in town
regards, ben

arbita1 03-28-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 56 nomad (Post 6652381)
paul,
will give it a try, would you just clip to the wire or do you hace to jump it...sounds like i also have to pull the seat out..is that right? any thougts as to why no reading at the port in the engine bay, could this non read cause a problem? gas milage is a little low10 to 11mpg in town
regards, ben

You don't need to take the seat out. Just push it back to the further seating position.

Get a test wire with aligator clips on both sides. Clip on side to the test port green wire pin and the other side to the nut on top of the fan that holds the coil.

Then go to the ECU and unplug the connector from it and test for ground at the pin mentioned above by Paul. If you have ground it is fine. If not there is a break in the wire.

Also, I never had any luck with the analog dwell meters. (I don't know why.) I switched to a Sears multimeter which also had a duty cycle setting and that's what I use now.

56 nomad 03-28-2012 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbita1 (Post 6652390)
You don't need to take the seat out. Just push it back to the further seating position.

Get a test wire with aligator clips on both sides. Clip on side to the test port green wire pin and the other side to the nut on top of the fan that holds the coil.

Then go to the ECU and unplug the connector from it and test for ground at the pin mentioned above by Paul. If you have ground it is fine. If not there is a break in the wire.

Also, I never had any luck with the analog dwell meters. (I don't know why.) I switched to a Sears multimeter which also had a duty cycle setting and that's what I use now.

will do if ....a break in the wire what issues might it cause....i have a multi meter, same difference. ben

Bob Kontak 03-28-2012 10:16 AM

The green / white test port wire from Lambda box 17 is a straight wire to the test port.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/911/911_Parts/Electrical/911_electrical_82SC_Part6-2.jpg

If there is a break in the wire I can't see any problems except lack of signal from the Lambda box.

arbita1 03-28-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 6652565)
The green / white test port wire from Lambda box 17 is a straight wire to the test port.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/911/911_Parts/Electrical/911_electrical_82SC_Part6-2.jpg

If there is a break in the wire I can't see any problems except lack of signal from the Lambda box.

Correct. This would explain the lack of reading you are getting on the meter when you are trying to check the duty cycle from the test port.

john walker's workshop 03-28-2012 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psalt (Post 6652242)
John, he means testing the Lambda FV duty cycle with a dwell meter on an 83 SC.

Ben, try pin 17 at the ECU. GRN/WHT.

so much for speed reading.

56 nomad 03-28-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by john walker's workshop (Post 6652724)
so much for speed reading.

happens sometimes...been there. ben

T77911S 03-29-2012 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by john walker's workshop (Post 6652724)
so much for speed reading.

thats my problem. kinda like a doctor, i just look for the hi lghts and miss small details sometimes, especially if it is long. the longer it is, the less i read.


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