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panel 04-12-2012 11:31 AM

WTF new/used tire for my Fuch's
 
Hey guys,

I'm just getting a couple of really good used tires put on my Fuchs and my tire shop says that they can't do it cause it is a inner tube type rim. They actually can't believe it held air in there before etc. The valve stem they use just goes right through the hole.

They asked me if I had some special buddy who put these tires on for me:confused:
I don't have the # from the inside right now as they are still down there at the tire shop.

What can I do?

porwolf 04-12-2012 11:36 AM

Never heard of real Fuchses beeing not suitable without inner tubes. Could the valve stem holes have been driiled out to a lager size by the prior owner?

skunked 04-12-2012 12:13 PM

IIRC the early 6" fuchs will require a different stem for a tubeless setup since the rim was originally designed a tube (large hole for tube stem).

EDIT

From TheSamba
Quote:

YES, the 195/50 tyres are finally mounted on the Fuchs wheels. I had to go to 5 different tires shops before I found one that was not full of B@#S§&t and was willing to do it.

I asked for the TR 415 stem and with this he mounted everything.

Thanks for all the help!! I have some pics so I will post some in the comming days!

panel 04-12-2012 01:26 PM

Yes it is a 15" x 6" wide but has a bit deeper offset than the standard Fuch.(Like there is a standard one right :) ) 195-60-15 tire will be going on there.

uwanna 04-12-2012 02:30 PM

Be REAL careful when driving with tubeless tires on tube type wheels! Years ago, I had the same wheels as yours on my '68 911L. While negotiating a cloverleaf at a speed faster than I should have, the front tire slammed the curb and the tubeless tire immediatly TOTALLY DEFLATED! Luckily, I got the car to a stop without a crash. I had no damage to the tire other than knocking the air out of it! The tire shop explained that all tubeless wheels have a safety bump or bead/ridge on the wheel to prevent the the sidewall impact problem I experienced. I think the J in wheel size (i.e.15x6J) indicates tubeless wheel, and any wheel without the J should be used with tubes or at your peril, tubeless! . Anyway, BE CAREFUL!!!

EDIT: In this "sue happy" litigious society we now live in, if I owned a tire shop, I would no longer mount tubeless tires onto tube type rims given the liability exposure! Think about it! Perhaps the shop who refused you was just protecting themselves and didn't stock the appropriate valve stems on purpose!

Joe Bob 04-12-2012 02:48 PM

Deep sixes were designed for a tube if I recall.

panel 04-12-2012 02:58 PM

So even with that valve stem mentioned in the above post it's not the best idea?

Can you get tubes for these wheels?

What's everyone using then?

panel 04-13-2012 05:28 AM

Bump for tube questions

javadog 04-13-2012 05:36 AM

Lots of people run tubeless tires on a deep 6 wheel. I don't see it as a huge risk. Then again, I don't run into curbs when driving...

JR


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