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CCM911 04-16-2012 06:44 AM

Triangle of Death Shopping list
 
OK. I know this has been discussed ad nauseum, but I did a search and did not find what I needed.

I have the engine out, and am resealing as much as I can.

For the "Triangle of Death" I currently have the thermostat O-ring, and the gasket for the oil breather.

What other parts do I need to complete this top section?

Thanks so much.

schumicat 04-16-2012 07:10 AM

oil pressure sender (for warning light, not gauge)
oil breather hose, unless yours is still supple

I'd also do the oil cooler o rings (3) as they are cheap and job is easier with engine out

86 911 Targa 04-16-2012 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCM911 (Post 6690669)
OK. I know this has been discussed ad nauseum, but I did a search and did not find what I needed.

I have the engine out, and am resealing as much as I can.

For the "Triangle of Death" I currently have the thermostat O-ring, and the gasket for the oil breather.

What other parts do I need to complete this top section?

Thanks so much.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1334588760.jpg

And you should replace the vaccum lines.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1334589009.jpg

Good luck,

Gerry

CCM911 04-16-2012 07:18 AM

Good stuff guys, I already did the vacuum lines two years ago.

And I appreciate the suggestion on doing the oil cooler o-rings. I have the two, I will search to see what the third is. Is it OK to do this, or is it one of those things where "if it isn't broken, don't touch it".

Thanks so much.

zippy_gg 04-16-2012 09:55 AM

How are your fuel lines?

CCM911 04-16-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by zippy_gg (Post 6691083)
How are your fuel lines?

Replaced three years ago. Good call!

But I sometimes wonder if they really get bad with age? I guess it is a better safe than sorry call. My tech was insistent on that one.

RWebb 04-16-2012 10:17 AM

they do - be sure you have the fuel hoses clamped with something that will not bite into the rubber

be sure the fuel hoses are rated for ethanol mixes

how old are your tires & brake hoses?

motor looks pretty - it'd be a shame to run it and get it all dirty...

CCM911 04-16-2012 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 6691121)
motor looks pretty - it'd be a shame to run it and get it all dirty...

Not mine. I'll put up a picture soon.

strikee 04-17-2012 04:52 PM

Good thread, lets get a proper list together.

So for an 85 Carrera I have ordered the following:

oil pressure sender -> 911-606-230-00-M85
Engine Thermostat O-Ring -> 999-707-314-40-M17
oil breather gasket -> 930-107-791-02-M17

Would like some advice on the following...

oil breather hose -> There seem to be a few options.

Also from the picture above, the red plug is the sender, which is the black?

JohnJL 04-17-2012 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by strikee (Post 6694327)
Good thread, lets get a proper list together.


Also from the picture above, the red plug is the sender, which is the black?

The black is a temp sender.

chrismorse 04-17-2012 07:30 PM

Don't forget the fuel/return hoses under the tin
 
The fuel and return hoses were routed directly under the exhaust heat exchanger dump. This caused the unwanted (dumped) heat to bake the fuel lines and when i got home on the cars maiden voyage, (550 miles) i had an ongoing fuel leak.

The hose was not quite charred but definitely badly heat damaged. Sorry, can't find the photo.

hth,
chris

CCM911 04-18-2012 05:26 AM

Totally good thread. I really appreciate the answers. Now I can prepare my list with confidence. I do not want to have to do this again any time soon. :)

pharlap71 04-18-2012 05:45 AM

here is my list while doing a clutch job, the trinity (good parts, it does make a difference), I had to use the green "O" ring on my oil thermostat to keep it from "weeping". I also had issues with my vent hose until I replaced it. Look very close between trans and engine for wetness, now is the time to replace flywheel seal, it is amazing where the oil ends up if this is leaking, very confusing. Again I suggest strongly good parts, I know of what I speak, I had to do it twice, use our host or Porsche parts.

CCM911 04-18-2012 05:48 AM

Regarding the Flywheel seal. If I don't see oil leaking, should I leave it alone? Or is it best just to replace it while the engine is out?

pharlap71 04-18-2012 06:07 AM

If it is not leaking that is going to be a "gut" call on your part. How many miles? I think if it were me I would, the part is not exspensive, mostly labor. You know the slippery slope of "while I'm in there".

pharlap71 04-18-2012 06:12 AM

PS- CCM911, when my new flywheel seal from local parts store was leaking I thought it was the cam boxes or rocker shafts were leaking, that is why I said it is amazing where the oil ends up when this seal is leaking. By the way I know many will not believe this but I have a leak free '84 Carrera, seriously.

gregwils 04-18-2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pharlap71 (Post 6695243)
By the way I know many will not believe this but I have a leak free '84 Carrera, seriously.

Not to worry, it's a temporary condition. As the saying goes, "if there is oil in it, there is oil on it."

vash 04-18-2012 09:48 AM

we're calling this the "triangle of death" now? hahha..bit dramatic, dont you think?

anyone mention new axle hardware yet?

pharlap71 04-18-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gregwils (Post 6695632)
Not to worry, it's a temporary condition. As the saying goes, "if there is oil in it, there is oil on it."

yeah but for now I am enjoying it, on second thought maybe I better check and see nif there is any oil in it!!!!!!!!

CCM911 04-18-2012 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 6695681)
we're calling this the "triangle of death" now? hahha..bit dramatic, dont you think?

anyone mention new axle hardware yet?

New CV Bolts are already on hand.

And I got "Triangle of Death" from prior posts. Personally, after seeing how dirty mine was, I am tempted to call it the "Triangle of S&!T". :)


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