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Charles Freeborn 04-27-2012 09:21 AM

Color Change = Loss of value?
 
Before I change the color (again) of my '74 911S Targa is there any substantial loss of vintage value if the paint doesn't match the code? The rest of the car is entirely original. It has had the color changed a couple of times, including into the door jambs, etc, so it would be a significant project to restore it to original, but so would changing it again anyway...
Thanks,
-C

CCM911 04-27-2012 09:25 AM

In my humble opinion, a car must maintain the original colour, or it will be worth less at sales time.

mikeferg75 04-27-2012 09:42 AM

I won't even consider a color changed car when shopping.

911s55 04-27-2012 09:46 AM

A '74 S Targa is becoming a fairly rare car. If the rest of the car is "original" as you mentioned
then the correct original color is a big plus to the value and I personally like the colors from that period, even sepia brown. What is the orginal color?

David

Charles Freeborn 04-27-2012 10:17 AM

Original color is Silver Metallic, which I have no objection to. It's actually my wife who wants it red... but that's a whole different topic. I'll convince her that the next one will be that color...
And yes it's completely box stock, engine re-worked (certs, etc) trans refreshed, suspension this summer.
Thanks for all your input.
-C

pplkook 04-27-2012 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn (Post 6715370)
Original color is Silver Metallic, which I have no objection to. It's actually my wife who wants it red... but that's a whole different topic. I'll convince her that the next one will be that color...
And yes it's completely box stock, engine re-worked (certs, etc) trans refreshed, suspension this summer.
Thanks for all your input.
-C

Ugh - I wouldn't do the red thing....

To add bling get some graphics from Joe Bob, maybe color match your fuchs or something.

911s55 04-27-2012 10:29 AM

Get your wife a Guardsman Red SC, Carerra or 944, there are a gazillion of them.

Silver metallic with the last year of the bright work exterior is a must!

David

BlueWing 04-27-2012 10:34 AM

A rare color, a survivor, a restored car - yes

But a modified Porsche I think would be acceptable. If we are doing engine and body changes the color should be thought in the same manor and a personal preference applied.

As the OP case if so much else is original as in a survivor a color change would hurt it. Now you have a reason for a second car.

Terry

IROC 04-27-2012 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911s55 (Post 6715318)
A '74 S Targa is becoming a fairly rare car. If the rest of the car is "original" as you mentioned
then the correct original color is a big plus to the value and I personally like the colors from that period, even sepia brown. What is the orginal color?

David

Rare doesn't necessarily mean valuable, though. IMHO, I wouldn't worry about it. If it's a '73 RS, yeah, keep it original. If you're painting the car specifically to sell it, then maybe the original color has some bearing. If you're painting the car for "you", then paint it whatever color you like and live happily ever after. SmileWavy

88911coupe 04-27-2012 10:51 AM

All things being equal, i.e. 2 similar cars, one has original paint, one resprayed a different color, there's no question the one with original paint is worth more. The other extreme? A '73 RS that was sent back to the factory and acid dipped then resprayed a nice silver...that might be the RARE case where a respray of a different color does not hurt the value...at least not a lot. As I said...all things being equal, the car with the new color respray is worth less.

Dodge Man 04-27-2012 11:02 AM

IMHO stay true to the factory with Silver Metallic
 
I bought what was supposed a red 1973 about 25 years ago when I was very young. It was not the Phoenix Red (L32K?) but Guardsman red. Check my Garage. It is R-E-D red. I run RS appearance and no bright work around the wheels or below the doors so it kind of works. I strongly recommend a Photoshop of the red to gain more perspective. Now days I yearn for the factory light yellow (code L117?) that is underneath. I saw a well restored 1973 metallic silver Targa at the P car shop and it was a beauty to behold. IMO It had a very clean understated kind of sexy look. IMHO the silver will yield the best appearance & resale value.

Macroni 04-27-2012 11:12 AM

Great topic. Does it hurt the re-sale value....... it depends.
A stunning car will sell regardless of originality. Many concur restorations and championships feature color changes.

If your car is not stunning you will be peddling a non original car with a mediocre paint job.

Recently, I saw a concur champion Dino; started life red won its prize Yellow.


Finally, IMO, too many red Porsche's

911s55 04-27-2012 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IROC (Post 6715444)
Rare doesn't necessarily mean valuable, though. IMHO, I wouldn't worry about it. If it's a '73 RS, yeah, keep it original. If you're painting the car specifically to sell it, then maybe the original color has some bearing. If you're painting the car for "you", then paint it whatever color you like and live happily ever after. SmileWavy

With all do respect, making the comparison of a '74 S Targa verses a'73 RS is not even fair.

"All cars" in my opinion are more desireable if they are in their original presentation.

David

Charles Freeborn 04-27-2012 11:26 AM

No, not an RS by any stretch, but a straight original S with Bilstein (also original) struts. California car, so very little rust. My goal is not necessarily to reap massive profits upon resale, though that would be nice.... I'm more looking for an out on the change to red, which I'm not terribly on board with. This gives me a "third party" to align with...
Many thanks,
-C

Fidalgo911S 04-27-2012 11:27 AM

A lot of hand-wringing for no reason. I think it's silly to fret over a color change. As long as it's done well, who cares.

RSTarga 04-27-2012 11:31 AM

Silver is a much better color for resale than red, wether original or respray.

oh snap 04-27-2012 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSTarga (Post 6715545)
Silver is a much better color for resale than red, wether original or respray.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IROC (Post 6715444)
Rare doesn't necessarily mean valuable, though. IMHO, I wouldn't worry about it. If it's a '73 RS, yeah, keep it original. If you're painting the car specifically to sell it, then maybe the original color has some bearing. If you're painting the car for "you", then paint it whatever color you like and live happily ever after. SmileWavy

I agree with these points. If you have resale in mind paint it original. If you really really like another colour, repaint it as you like.

For my taste, I prefer silver to red, and original to not, so i would choose silver. If you were considering another colour, like Bahama blue, i might be swayed away from silver

McLovin 04-27-2012 12:42 PM

Since the car has already had multiple color changes already, and isn't the original color currently, another color change won't hurt the current value at all.

NY91184 04-27-2012 12:56 PM

"Re-sale Red" tends to sell faster
original tends to be more valuable

IROC 04-27-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911s55 (Post 6715508)
With all do respect, making the comparison of a '74 S Targa verses a'73 RS is not even fair.

Exactly. We're not talking a really valuable car, here. And I'm not intending any offense relative to a '74 Targa. My car is even less "valuable". But who cares? Is this a concours crowd or people who love to drive fun cars?

To me, owning a 911 is all about enjoying the car, not worrying about what other people think. But then again, I'm not looking to sell my car.


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