Realistic or not?
 

I've just read an article on a gearbox additive named Abcon. By adding it to the gearbox oil it's claimed to produce a teflon coating on the gearbox internal parts thus reducing wear and giving you a smoother gearchange. In addition the power loss through the transmission is claimed to be reduced also, thereby making the car produce more HP at the wheels. In the article they test 3 cars before and after. One gained 9 HP, the second gained 15 HP and the third was unchanged....

So now I'm curious to know if any of you have ever heard of or tried this product? Smoother gearchange, less wear and more power at the wheels. It just sounds too good to be true!?

The first problem I have with putting a more slippery fluid into the trans...will the synchro's still have enough grab to do their job?
If you make major changes in the viscosity of the trans fluid you could upset the whole feel of the trans.
Secondly....if it takes thousands of degrees to bond Teflon to a fry pan to make it stick....how is it going to stick to gears inside the trans?
Stick with the tried and true stuff.
Bob

Its Motor-ups sista Gear-up!

Well, not gonna put motor up in machine, but i seriously thought that gearup thingie :)

Well I must say that I'm sceptical, but I talked to a guy who has a 1987 Carrera 3.2 Turbo Look. He put a product like this one (not sure if it's the exact same) in his G50. He claims that his gearchange has improved and feels better. Imagine if this really is so good.... It would really be a welcome addition to my 915 gearbox :D

Oh btw I forgot to say which cars were tested in the article:

Citroen Saxo
Subaru WRX
BMW 320i

Just say no to additives. Aside from Techron (which does no harm at least) I can't think of any additives that I'd put in my car. Your 915 is a very different animal than a G50.
-Chris

Mikkel,

I assume you've tried Swepco?

Cheers,

Tim.
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1983 SC Targa

I think the miraculous improvements people report from these additives is mostly due to the fact that said fluid hadn't been changed/topped-up in XX,XXX miles. Kinda like how tripe tastes good when you haven't eaten in 2 weeks, or Mimi from the Drew Carey shows looks good when... let's not go there...

I personally won't add any additives, BUT a friend of mine who used to race ford escorts started using an additive called Slick 50 which is some kind of teflon coating and after using it he claimed that he noticed less wear in the bearings when he did the rebuilds?

I don't know I have heard loads of stories on both sides

I think its a personal thing;)

Cheers Jakes

Hey all,
This is slightly off topic, but I'm getting ready to pump some swepco into my trans, and have a question. I cannot find a pump that looks like it'll work with a swepco bottle. Is there a brand of hand-pump that fits over the bottle stem to pump into the transmission? The only thing I've seen at local auto stores are grease guns.

Also, might be a silly question, but, um, how much volume is in there? Fill it until it overfills? And is one Swepco bottle enough?

TiA,
- Eric

teflon etc.
 

Didn't DuPont come out with a statement years ago that they knew of no good use for teflon as an oil additive?

There have been some pretty thorough tests of various additives through the years, and I don't remember a single one where the additive did anything but fill the purveyors' pockets. I would bet that the marketing budget for STP, Slick 50, etc. dwarfs the actual cost to produce the stuff many times over. Boy, it sure is hard to hold that screwdriver blade once it's been dipped in STP. Really folks.

I supposed if enough of that Slick50 Teflon plugged up the cam lube passages it might increase the bottom end lubrication... If that Slick 50 stuff is "coat" moving parts, just think how well it will stick to your oil passages.
-Chris

You do fill it until the fluid just starts to run over the fill plug on the side of the tranny. 3/4 of a gallon just about does it. Maybe a bit more if you let the tranny drain for a couple of days.

Forget the pump. Get a 1/2" clear plastic, flexible tube from your hardware store - about 4 feet will do -and snake it from the wheel well to under the spring plate to under the car and into the fill hole. Lift the tube above the fender, stick a funnel in the top, pour in your fluid and let gravity do the job. At about 7/8 gallon a good bit leaked back out so it probably holds 3/4 or a little more.

First rule: Teflon doesn't stick or bond to anything. Even in the case of frying pans, the Teflon is embedded in a coating that is applied to the metal pan.

Lubricants like Slick 50 advertise that the Teflon bonds to the internal workings of your engine. These products contain small particle size PTFE (generic name for Teflon) that, while they dont bond to metal, do tend to bond to eachother. Consequently, they form larger particles that in time simply find their way to the oil filter medium.

For this reason, I have steered clear of Teflon additives on automotive lubricants.

Read somewhere long ago that teflon when heated to extreme temperatures is extremely corrosive. I believe that it was a reliable source, result of extensive laboratory testing.

Diverdan

tranny fluid
 

Usurpah,

Try a different route then a hand pump. I grabbed the first one I came across. First problem is the swepco bottle didn't fit the hand pump and I ended up with tranny oil all over the place. My suggestion is remove the access plate from behind the seats and gravity feed the oil in there. Anybody do it this way? Or for sure find a hand pump that fits the swepco bottle. Good luck, John