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chockymonster 08-23-2012 03:30 PM

'82 911sc - What have I started?
 
Years ago I told my wife I wanted a porsche, she's known that my midlife crisis was going to be porsche shaped.

The last time we spoke cars she set some guidlines, my Evo had to be an Evo V, the rest were too girly. When I realised that my driving was costing £1.80 a mile for the little driving I did I sold up and built something similar to a Caterham, 420 kg, 155bhp and 12k redline. Unfortunately the lack of seats, windscreen or roof meant the death knell was sounded when my son was born. When discussing Porsche shapes, some guidelines were mentioned. No silly whale tails, not the old shape, convertible, not red.

So when I was told of a Porsche parked up in a garage, stored since 1999 and not touched since, I was intrigued. A bit of haggling and the car was mine.
This isn't going to be a one hit restoration, I don't have the funds available to do it, so I need to do the big stuff to get the rolling and then do the rest as and when my Dad and I can.

First step was was removing it from the garage where it had been parked with the handbrake on.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58...garage_sml.jpg

13 years of dust, household stuff piled on top, this is the first time it had seen daylight.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58.../911sc_sml.jpg

Interior not looking so pretty
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58...che/inside.jpg

Parked in it's new home
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58...e/_MG_5021.jpg

First investigations found that the fuel tank was gummed solid, the tank was half full of solid something, fuel lines were blocked, filter clogged, it was all pretty ugly. Tank has been replaced, new pump, filters, lines cleared, fuel sender cleaned up as much as possible.

New rubber needed, these are old, mismatched front and rear and some N rated, some not. The alloys will need refurbing at some point, but I need to refill my wallet first.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58...e/_MG_5022.jpg

She's pretty straight all over
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58...e/_MG_5046.jpg
It looks like a PO had the car fully undersealed, I've checked all of the usual floor plan areas, headlight bowls, rear deck lid and they are solid. There are a couple of small bubbles by the rear windows, one by the bottom of the front wing near the bonnet and a split in the paint caused by something heavy.

Unfortunately the PO thought he was a wiring guru, he was wrong. I'm surprised the car hasn't caught fire from what I've seen!

A little helper
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58...e/_MG_5023.jpg

Gramps, what's this? (heart attack for Dad!)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58...e/_MG_5027.jpg

New rubber, Contisport Contact
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58...e/_MG_5032.jpg

Tappets adjusted, Oils drained and refilled, full service and try and fire it up!

She lives

Tomorrow it's due it's MOT (UK annual inspection) Fortunately my emissions levels are 911 friendly, 3.5% CO 200ppm HC.

A 1982 911sc Targa in Guards Red. 75,000 miles and at the moment that's all I know. There's no history yet, I have no idea what options were fitted yet, I can tell it has 16" fuchs alloys and the secondary air stuff has been removed but that's it.

I think this is going to be a fun journey!

tuchan 08-23-2012 03:38 PM

Great work !!

Seems to run and sound OK too!

Don't forget to check oil level with car running and warmed up :)

Well done, thanks for sharing!

chockymonster 08-23-2012 04:00 PM

Forgot to apologise for the laughing on the video!
I keep finding more and more things breaking.
Headlight switch failed today, puff of smoke and nothing more, need to look at adding relay wiring for the headlights I guess.
Oil level gauge flickers a lot, not sure if that's normal and the fuel sender looks like it's dead.

plumb4u2 08-23-2012 04:05 PM

So your wife said "no whale tail, not the old shape, and not red" And that's what you got??

That's awesome!!!!

500_19B 08-23-2012 04:14 PM

Is that a Ferrari 308/328 or such under that car cover?

wasserkuhl 08-23-2012 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 500_19B (Post 6931047)
Is that a Ferrari 308/328 or such under that car cover?

Its a 328.

Richard Burns 08-23-2012 04:53 PM

The oil level gauge flickering is not a problem. Once the oil is right through the car and it has warmed up properly it will settle down. Do not believe that it is accurate always check the oil with the dipstick (car must be at normal running temperature and idling on level ground).
Good luck,
Richard.

woywitka 08-23-2012 06:55 PM

Smile to my face!

You're awesome!

Germanator 08-23-2012 07:14 PM

Looks good. How much did you pay for it?

chockymonster 08-24-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 500_19B (Post 6931047)
Is that a Ferrari 308/328 or such under that car cover?

It's my Dad's 328 GTS

Quote:

Originally Posted by plumb4u2 (Post 6931033)
So your wife said "no whale tail, not the old shape, and not red" And that's what you got??

That's awesome!!!!

Well it was rude not to!
Being serious, the car was too good to turn down. I'm not sure if it was the different climate but the almost complete lack of rust compared to some of the other projects I looked at just made it a no brainer (but who uses their brain when these things are involved!) As much as I love the modern 911, I've got so used to driving a car with no ABS, no power steering. I hate being pandered to by the car and 993 prices are just too high.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Burns (Post 6931122)
The oil level gauge flickering is not a problem. Once the oil is right through the car and it has warmed up properly it will settle down. Do not believe that it is accurate always check the oil with the dipstick (car must be at normal running temperature and idling on level ground).
Good luck,
Richard.

The only Oil gauge I've ever relied on is pressure, Glad to hear it isn't something else to fix though!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Germanator (Post 6931363)
Looks good. How much did you pay for it?

Probably too much. I reckon it'll stand me in $12k back on the road and running.

chockymonster 08-24-2012 12:42 AM

I'm getting the feeling that this is going to be one of those cars.
Any quick job isn't.
A quick check over the horns to figure out why it sounded so pathetic and I find the oil cooler is only held on by one cotton reel bush!

dhagood 08-24-2012 01:13 AM

that's definitely a 911sc engine, yet the rear lid says carrera.

plus, the wife said "convertible", and it's a targa.

this is going to be fun :D

chockymonster 08-24-2012 04:48 AM

She doesn't appear to be overly enthusiastic yet.
But being a petrol head I'm sure she'll change her mind.

I know the badge on the decklid is wrong, if I was a stickler for detail I'd probably change it.

MBAtarga 08-24-2012 07:35 AM

I love your composition of the photos for the story!

chockymonster 08-24-2012 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 6932200)
I love your composition of the photos for the story!

Thanks, I'm more used to taking pictures of people so cars make a nice change!

Bob Kontak 08-24-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chockymonster (Post 6930966)
Gramps, what's this? (heart attack for Dad!)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58...e/_MG_5027.jpg

He's trying to get the ROW bumper pads off to exchange for the American ones.

chockymonster 08-24-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 6932772)
He's trying to get the ROW bumper pads off to exchange for the American ones.

Will you leave my proper sized bumper pads alone!

Jess 08-24-2012 01:56 PM

I'm thinking you're a pro photographer, perhaps? Great pictures!

nineball 08-24-2012 04:39 PM

be certain to take a good look under the battery and the tray. the only spot i had some on mine but luckily i was able to remove most and por-15'd the rest.

chockymonster 08-25-2012 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nineball (Post 6933232)
be certain to take a good look under the battery and the tray. the only spot i had some on mine but luckily i was able to remove most and por-15'd the rest.

That was the only thing the previous owner removed before parking it.
It all looks solid under there from what I can see.

chockymonster 08-25-2012 03:12 AM

Woohoo! Car is now MOT'd!
Not so good, need a new steering wheel as the rim appears to be broken. Not sure what to do with that. Do I stay original or go aftermarket.

Bob Kontak 08-25-2012 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nineball (Post 6933232)
be certain to take a good look under the battery and the tray.

Also....

In the far upper corner in the front fender well there are several pieces welded together. I found that debris can get packed up in there and stay wet and I had a wee bit of rust at the weld point when I pulled the fenders for a repaint. You can't really see the spot because of the confined space.

Aside from the overkill job of pulling the fenders, I would just spray up there in the corner liberally with a garden hose and flush any debris out. Surely the stuff, if any, has dried but may help going forward.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1345904998.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1345905031.jpg

nineball 08-25-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chockymonster (Post 6933872)
Woohoo! Car is now MOT'd!
Not so good, need a new steering wheel as the rim appears to be broken. Not sure what to do with that. Do I stay original or go aftermarket.


personally i love the 930s wheel. that's what i have in my 83SC.

Pelican Parts.com - 930S Steering Wheel


you can even get a little crest to put in the middle.

Brillo 08-26-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nineball (Post 6934365)
personally i love the 930s wheel. that's what i have in my 83SC.

Pelican Parts.com - 930S Steering Wheel


you can even get a little crest to put in the middle.

+ 1

Have one in my '79.

Congrats on the car and passing the MOT.

chockymonster 08-26-2012 01:51 PM

I'm leaning towards the Momo Prototipo. I'm liking the balance between form and price!

arry911 08-28-2012 07:56 AM

I have a momo wheel on mine and it looks good and the cars easy to drive with the smaller wheel.My cars a 1982 sc ,looks the same.I think you might find its india red very close to guards red.Well done for saving the car you will love it with the roof off!

wachuko 08-28-2012 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chockymonster (Post 6930966)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58...e/_MG_5027.jpg

I think this is going to be a fun journey!

Love that photo! :cool:

I have one of my son when I was working on the top mechanism... he just took the sunglasses and tried to drive the car :)

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/danielatthewheel.jpg

He is growing and learning to love cars and work on them :D

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc03015med.jpg

Best of luck on the project! It is coming along great.

chockymonster 08-28-2012 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachuko (Post 6940239)
Love that photo! :cool:

Me too. It was actually fun having 3 generations in the garage attempting work on the car. I'm not sure who was more of a pain to my Dad, me or my son!

chockymonster 10-07-2012 02:23 PM

So the little lady is now tucked up safely in my garage.

The first drive was eventful, maybe picking the car up and driving it for the first time in the dark wasn't the best plan!

I spent ages trying to figure out how to adjust the passenger mirror (manual, not electric!)
I found that the fuel sender didn't survive after all and only works below half a tank and then intermittently (what's the range on an 85 ltr tank?)
I don't need a stereo because that engine note is gorgeous
The road surface on the M25 is awful
The right pedal is addictive
I can't see the speedo between 40 and 80mph (momo prototipo wheel is a bit small, so I've rotated the speedo and then rev counter to match)
The dials are lit by a candle I'm guessing (yes I've found the dimmer and no it didn't make a blind bit of difference!)
The gear change is lovely, I just don't like the lack of centering spring or the fact that the gear knob always seems to be out of reach! (Rennshift on the way)
The upgrade list is growing, I know I didn't have a load of cash before, I don't think I ever will again!

I managed to do a few jobs over the weekend.
I've modified the gauges so I can see them in the dark, I've used EL wire inside the gauge fed by an inverter near the fusebox.

The only other quick change was fusing the dash lights and starting to build a replacement fuse panel. All of my rough running issues seem to stem from cracks in the original panel. Shouldn't take too long to build up the panel as Fred cook has kindly shared his fuse panel instructions which has given me a massive jump start.

weseeeee 10-07-2012 03:42 PM

Congrats on your new ride. I'm enjoying your project, thanks for posting.


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