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mark 74 carrera 06-02-2002 06:50 PM

Where can I get a real duck tail?
 
My car has an aftermarket replacement. I want to replace it with a correct factory duck tail. I have checked Platz.com and many other places on the net? Am I in search of the Holy Grail?

Jack Olsen 06-02-2002 06:57 PM

Parts Obsolete used to make one that was a metal base fused to a fiberglass tail, like the factory made 'em.

Genuine factory ones are very rare.

andyjboy 06-03-2002 12:41 AM

Mark, I have a contact in Germany who has 2 factory ducktails for sale - around $2500 each - this seems to be the typical going rate for them.

Unless your car is an original 2.7 Carrera RS why even contemplate this - there is a huge difference in quality between manufacturers of aftermarket ducktails & you may get the effect you want by replacing your grp ducktail with one from a top quality manufacturer.

If you're interested in the originals, I'll pass on details of my contact.

Andy Boyle (UK)
'69 911E

Randy W 06-03-2002 05:48 AM

Originals go for $1500 and up each. They do come up occasionally, but the factory ones are not as high a quality as you might imagine. It is possible to have a great body and paint man take a fiberglass scoop from an aftermarket ducktail and bond it to a steel deck lid and have it look exactly like the factory original but with a better finished quality for $750 to $1000. That's what I had done - people ask me if it's an original all the time.

needlevalve 06-03-2002 05:53 AM

I also have an original 73 ductail (steel). In 73 both steel and alloy tails were used. If you would like more info email me nvalve@yahoo.com.

Regards

gumba 06-03-2002 07:19 AM

I had a ducktail made a few years back by a company in Florida called "Made By Hand". P.O. Box 340, Crawfordville, Fl. 92327. They used a steel engine lid and bonded a fiberglass tail on. Bruce Anderson mentiioned them in some really old article I ran across. I called information in Florida and they gave me the number. He quoted me $600 if they supplied the hood. It took six weeks to get. I've never seen them advertise. I sent a 50% deposit and the balance when it was ready to ship.

tobluforu 06-03-2002 08:54 AM

Wait a minute! Are you guys saying that there are two types? One that is ALL fiberglass and another that is fiberglass on steel?
How can you tell if it's original? I have one on my car that is glass on steel-(sheet metal). Is there a way I can tell if it's REAL. Hell, if it is, I'll sell it if it's worth that kind of money.

andyjboy 06-03-2002 09:09 AM

There were 2 versions of the original (factory) ducktail - one with an alloy frame & one with a steel frame. Then there are the aftermarket ones - usually all grp - but as mentioned above, replica ducktails have also been produced by bonding a grp ducktail spoiler onto a std steel engine lid.

Andy Boyle (UK)
'69 911E

GeorgeK 06-03-2002 09:13 AM

Guys,
Are you sure that the factory built some with STEEL frame?? I have never seen one, and I have seen more than my share of RSs. All alloy framed...
GeorgeK

Randy W 06-03-2002 09:32 AM

George, I thought the switch to a steel frame was documented in the Carrera RS book - can't find it now. I have seen a real RS ducktail with a steel frame on a very late Italian delivered RS.

FranksPlace2 06-03-2002 09:33 AM

Made by Hand Link
 
Here is the link to the Made by Hand shop. They specialize in 356 restoration.

Made by Hand

Jack Olsen 06-03-2002 11:05 AM

Aha! That's the one I had seen. Because Made By Hand is a 356 outfit, I got them confused with Parts Obsolete.

So for the record, Parts Obsolete (probably) never made these.

mark 74 carrera 06-03-2002 03:45 PM

FranksPlace2,

Thanks for the link. That looks like a great compromise. My after market tail is kind of flimsy and an obvious imposter when next to the factory equivalent. That looks like a great option when I do a respray. Thanks again, Mark

FranksPlace2 06-03-2002 04:01 PM

Wow!
 
Wow!! Recognition from a moderator and a senior pelican. Maybe I'll get promoted to Junior Plus!

Happy to help.

Frank


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