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How many per day?
I have a 68 911T SWT w/o engine/trans, BUT have an opportunity to buy an engine that is only 154 off in numbers (earlier though) than what the factory gave me for our engine number. Does anybody know, roughly, how many days off this # may have been for ours? Should I buy it due to its proximity in # to ours? I doubt that I would find THE actual engine, though that would be awesome. Thanks for your input.
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What is your body chassis #? |
Body Chassis # 11870138
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Well, if you did not misread (I previously misread your year for a 69...) your VIN, you got a...
1968 911T Targa (RoW). 521 Produced, the engine would have been a 901/03 with a serial # between 2080001-2081754. |
VIN is correct. The engine # per the COA is 2080535 The trans # is 2280485 (901/03). I need both. Thanks
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The Red Book does not list a Transmission type of 901/03 for the 68 911T. It list 901/10 or 905/00 (Sporto).
I'll check a couple more reference. |
I understand that the COA should not be taken as gospel truth. I appreciate your research.
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Unfortunately the engine I was referring to above has been sold. Still on/in the hunt though.
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If you google "porsche 901/03 transmission", they do fit the 68 911T and some of the link have them for sale for less then $1,000. It might be worth while to check them out and if you are very lucky... :) |
How did you determine it was a RoW, and not a US market car?
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In the 4th position: 0 = S Coupe 1 = 911 Coupe 3 = U.S. 911 Coupe 5 = S Targa 6 = L Targa 7 = T Targa 8 = U.S. Targa |
So, does that infer that all T's were RoW and not US bound? Thanks for the input btw.
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It does look like it for the 911T (touring) Targa, according to the Red book but they also list some 911T & 911T (Karmann) which would be coupe and have a "2" in the forth VIN position but not listed in the sequence (see post # 11) but in the write up they allude that the T (touring) was offered at a lower price and with lower performance (110 hp) engine in Europe.
Welcome to Porsche not so precise record keeping ;) In Waynes Engine Rebuild books, he list the 68 901/03 engine as a European version in a 911T, so all the indicators point that your car is a 911T Targa RoW. In 69, the 911T was available in 2 versions (Targa & Coupe) for both the U.S. and RoW |
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JJ, Thanks for the schooling. Not sure about that last post?
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Lately they always have a Female handle. Actually her posting has been removed but because I quote her it is still showing in my post 14. |
Gotcha.
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This is a much more accurate VIN list for 1968, you need both 4th & 5th digits to define them.
11805001 to 11805449 USA Coupe 911L 11830001 to 11830473 USA Coupe 911 11835001 to 11835742 USA Coupe K 911 11855001 to 11855134 USA Targa 911L 11880001 to 11880268 USA Targa 911 11820001 to 11820928 ROW Coupe 911T 11825001 to 11825683 ROW Coupe K 911T 11870001 to 11870521 ROW Targa 911T 11810001 to 11810720 ROW Coupe 911L 11860001 to 11860307 ROW Targa 911L 11800001 to 11801267 ROW Coupe 911S 11850001 to 11850442 ROW Targa 911S 11899001 to 11899020 ------ Coupe 911R |
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The Red Book does not describe the "2 in the 4th position and it does not list; 11899001 to 11899020 ------ Coupe 911R but does mentioned that the 911R was a limited production run of light weight competition cars. Also refers to it as 911T/R |
1968 911r
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Furthermore, the 901/03 is the standard optional 5spd gearbox for a '68 911T. Standard spec would have been a 901/10 4spd, but if the original buyer or the dealer spec'd it with 5spd, 901/03 would have been the box put into the car. I owned a '68 911T for about a year. Fun little cars, albeit underpowered for the weight because of the 110bhp engine. Regards, Matt |
And a good call it was. However I just wanted the full and accurate VIN info posted. There is indeed the 2 in the fourth position, and it is out of these 911T's that the 911 T/R models came. The 911R was a different beast from the 911 T/R. I won't try to explain all the errors in the Red Book.
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They all have errors.
Are your Database accessible somewhere? |
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One of these days I'll get around to cataloging all the engines and gearboxes and chassis I have here and send them over to you. I appreciate your efforts to document these things on our behalf. |
To answer the original question (anybody remember that one?) I'd estimate around 40-42 cars per day.
JR |
Thanks Matt, I would appreciate that.
JJ the database is not online since it contains a lot of confidential info. It is also pretty big and complicated so it does not lend itself to posting. However I try to assist where I can. JR, I think your estimate is high; I count 7000 cars, and divided by about 240 working days per year it would come out to about 29 per day in 1968 model year for the 911 of which Karmann was making 3.4 per day. |
I was using 9802 cars. 240 days may be an accurate number; it also may be a little high, as it took 2 1/2 weeks, give or take, to build a car and there would have been some lag time to get things up and running after the factory holidays, I'd think.
Regardless of who built the bodies, they all used the same pool of engines, so I wasn't making any distinctions on where the bodies were built. JR |
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Actually, I was surprise that every time I reply there was only me and the OP talking :) I'm also surprise that the CoA seem to be spot on for a change... |
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