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timmy2 09-28-2012 01:05 PM

Happy to say there were no spark showers this morning going to work at 55F, top comes off for the 80F ride home. Less than a 1/4” of rain here since June and none coming. I really like the Targa in weather like this! :)

timmy2 09-28-2012 05:10 PM

Took a look at the failed switch today. Made by Indak.
The terminals had come loose in the micarta board and had turned enough for the connectors to touch. The switch uses pressure against the mounting studs internally to make/break the connections. Age related failure is my guess.
Mine also has a rotary pot on it for min-max cooling mounted on the shaft.
I don't think I'll be finding a new one of these soon.

Here's a pic of a similar new one.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1348880712.jpg

Kidasters 09-28-2012 05:52 PM

Hah. Same switch in my BMW 2002. Also made by Indak. I replaced it about 5 years ago.

kuehl 10-02-2012 01:33 AM

Pelican Parts - Product Information: 911-613-243-00-M100

How many years do you expect a switch to carry 12+ amps

mreid 10-02-2012 03:08 AM

I'm just going to keep posting these pictures as a safety reminder anytime I read a 911 a/c spark-burn story. My stock, unfused front condenser fan burst into flames while driving home from Pittsburgh. Unlike the rest of you, I'm pretty wimpy and enjoy staying cool in the heat. My stock a/c works really well other than the occasional fire:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...6E048C53FA.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...6E09FB59CC.jpg

timmy2 10-02-2012 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuehl (Post 7008720)
Pelican Parts - Product Information: 911-613-243-00-M100

How many years do you expect a switch to carry 12+ amps

True, what are the current ratings on your variable speed switch?

The switch you linked me to is close to mine, mine was a dual function switch with a rheostat and second rotary knob to control the cooling level. No console, dealer installed when car was brought over by PO.

kuehl 10-02-2012 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmy2 (Post 7009065)
True, what are the current ratings on your variable speed switch?

The Kuehl Variable Speed Fan Switch can handle, with no issues, the normal loads
that are demanded through the thermostat. The Variable Speed Fan Controller Board, as well, can handle the normal loads demanded by the evaporator blower motor.

Ayles 05-18-2015 07:18 PM

Bumping an old thread, I am having trouble tracing the last bit of AC harness. I want the wire that terminate in the smugglers box gone. I'm losing track of it under the dash near the factory alarm. Is this an easy harness to delete or is it bundled with other wires.

Trying to be patient and not cut anything :)

timmy2 05-18-2015 08:18 PM

Well this is a blast from the past. Almost 3 years and I haven't regretted pulling it since.

Ayles, not sure about factory A/C wiring runs, seems they just added wires until it worked. :)
Where do you think it should go to or come from? What did it control?

Ayles 05-18-2015 09:47 PM

Just spent an hour getting aggressive with it and got it out. Only made one cut at the ground, right at the connector since there was no way I could get in there with a wrench.

All that's left are some yellow wires on the drivers side that were plugged into the harness and a green wire that was plugged in as well. I assume just wrap them both up and call it good?

Ayles 05-18-2015 09:52 PM

Here's a pic of the yellow wires.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1432014706.jpg

timmy2 05-18-2015 10:08 PM

Spark shower! Bye Bye A/C
 
Make sure the thick yellow wire headed to the back of the car is plugged into the one coming from the back of the 6 pin plug as I believe it is your starter solenoid wire to pin one of the 14 pin connector at the rear fuse panel. If I'm seeing the picture correctly on my phone. :)
Others can be taped up.

Ayles 05-18-2015 10:39 PM

The AC harness in the frunk had both green and yellow wires plugged into it just a foot or so from the fuse panel.

It looks like the Two yellow wires can be plugged back in without the AC harness. It was just a tap off the two, if that's the same yellow wire as the starter. Bentley has the starter showing in the AC wiring diagram. I just never would have thought the starter would be involved.

kuehl 05-19-2015 01:00 AM

AC schematic is here

http://www.pelicanparts.com/911/911_Parts/Electrical/911_electrical_82SC_AC.jpg

wgirardot 05-19-2015 05:47 AM

I really enjoy my upgraded a/c. It was a very satisfying project.:)

Ayles 05-19-2015 07:27 AM

Some better pics:
Frunk:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1432048889.jpg

Harness:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1432048911.jpg

I think I just hook up the two frunk wires, since they were pretty much hooked together before with just an additional wire going into the AC harness.


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