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pjv911 06-26-2002 06:17 PM

Is anyone else on this board getting crazy amounts of.....
 
I have been getting 5-10 emails daily that offer minimum description but containing attachments. The titles read many different things like "try my new game" and "opinion needed" or one that even said "Hi Kurt eager to see you"

I havent opened any of these but I bet they are viruses.
I only visit this board and ebay so I feel it must originate from this board. Anyone else getting these ?

Kurt Williams

nostatic 06-26-2002 06:34 PM

They are from the widow with the cars. You thought they were "free", but as you are finding out, everything has a price.

You'll be spammed for the next 5 years of 50,000 miles, whichever comes first. ;)

ChrisBennet 06-26-2002 06:45 PM

Last week I got loads of them. I doubt it has anything to do with this board. Most likely it is one of those viruses that uses a person's email address book to propagate itself.
-Chris

silverc4s 06-26-2002 06:46 PM

ORRRRRRRRRR
 
They are from the 625 guys waiting PATIENTLY to see what's up with your "CRAZY LADY'S GONNA GIVE ME TWO 911S FOR FREE!!!" story.....:D :D :D

john70t 06-26-2002 06:56 PM

A couple of weeks ago, before Windows crashed and burned for the third time, a repeat from before happened: My Zonealarm(free firewall thats rated as one of the best) started blinking like a turn signal.
The next day windows wouldn't shut down properly, and a week later on every boot there would be a "invalid system disk" with nothing in the A drive. I was also getting popups like "do you want to allow your computer to be a server", and saw "server" in the close-programs box(cntrol/alt/delete once!)

It only happened on this board and on a few, specific days.

There may be a mischevous (to put it very nicely) someone who is using this board for a different agenda so beware all and get a fire wall.

You can also get free virus checkers at www.symantec.com (Norton antivirus)

Bill Douglas 06-26-2002 07:07 PM

Actually... I don't usually get those but after I sent an email to PP I got alot for the next two weeks. One was from a name like CarlosNZ@hotmail.com, or something like that, and I know there is a Carlos in New Zealand that goes to this BBS. And all the attachments did contain a virus. So usual story - don't run the .exe

wckrause 06-26-2002 07:14 PM

I'm getting strange emails with no attachments, no body, and just a short oddball subject. The weird thing is the email size is over 100K, but there's no attachment.

It goes to a different email address then I use for this board.

Jack Olsen 06-26-2002 07:14 PM

I get them too. I assume they're from a virus that sends a small attachment to everyone on a computer's email address list.

Does anyone know more?

Fishcop 06-26-2002 07:25 PM

I get them too, only they normally read "You said to let you know when I had my new webcam up" normally from a female sender...

Oh, maybe that's a different board! :o

emcon5 06-26-2002 07:30 PM

John, I really doubt that anyone on the board is trying to hack you, primarily because only 3 people on this board can even see your IP address. Wayne, Jack Olsen, and old_skull.

There are lots of nasty stuff out there, some of which you can install on your PC without being aware of it.

If you are running Kazza or Morpheous, you probably installed at the very least some spyware that tracks your web usage. One of them includes a distributed computing program that uses your PC to do computations when your screen saver is running. A few included trojans that will allow other people to access your stuff. Here are a few simple things to protect yourself:

Get a antivirus program and keep it updated. Symantec and Mcafee are 2 of the better known versions that will update themselves.

Get a personal firewall. This is especially important if you have a broadband internet connection and never turn off your PC. Zone Alarm is really good, very intuitive and free. Hard to beat that combination.

Don't open email attachments unless you know exactly what they are. Some of the new mail viruses spread by sending themselve to everyone in the address book of an infected PC. Newer strains also change the "from" field to hid who is really infected.

Keep your operating system current. Go to the Windows Update site and get all the critical and security updates.

This will probably irritate some people, but don't use Microsoft products if you can help it. Microsoft has what can only be described as a horrible track record when it comes to security. Most of the current viruses/worms out there exploit known holes in Outlook or Internet Explorer.

Jack, I will send you my email address off line, forward the curious mail to me, I will tell you what it is.

Tom
(Mozilla for browser and mail, Zone Alarm and Mcafee to keep the bugs out)

Wayne 962 06-26-2002 07:37 PM

There's no viruses on this server, I have it locked down very, very tight. I also am running Norton AV for servers (Corporate Edition) on it with daily updates, and real-time virus scans...

-Wayne

Fishcop 06-26-2002 07:41 PM

Tom, thanks for the computer info. Where can one get Mozilla?

Cheers

emcon5 06-26-2002 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fishcop
Tom, thanks for the computer info. Where can one get Mozilla?

Cheers

mozilla.org

The only real downside to it is that some plug-ins dont work quite right, and once every other week or so you will go to a web page that is written so poorly it only works right in Internet Explorer.

A major upside, there is a built in setting to disable pop-up advertisements. I haven't seen an X10 ad for months, (WHOHOO!)

Tom

nostatic 06-26-2002 08:25 PM

We've seen some odd ones lately with very legal sounding text in the body, and attachments with .com extensions. Our servers have stringent scanning and quarantine software, but other boxes on campus are not so secure.

Running OS X on a Mac means that almost all of these viruses are nothing more than an annoyance propagated (usually unknowingly) by windoze users. Outlook is especially bad and letting viruses send email to everyone in the exchange address list.

I run Mail.app and OmniWeb browser...and so far (knock on wood) no need for antivirus software.

APKhaos 06-26-2002 08:44 PM

Tom,
Good advice!
Got a link to some more info on the Kazza issue?
My son loaded it, and Zone Alarm lit up with attempts to open incoming ftp connections. I'm guessing this may have been an attempt to add procs to Kazza??
Thanx,
Tony [emil on profile]

emcon5 06-26-2002 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by APKhaos
Tom,
Good advice!
Got a link to some more info on the Kazza issue?

Here is one.
http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2859775,00.html

For more, a Google search for kazaa spyware should turn up a pile of info.

Tom

claptrap 06-26-2002 09:45 PM

Alternatives to what has been suggested, I used Lavasoft
ad-aware to scan for spyware, and sygate personal firewall
at www.sygate.com/products Both are free.

Scott

HawgRyder 06-26-2002 10:18 PM

Personally I use Linux....the nice thing about it....if you do not assign permissions to each file...they cannot run.
When viruses come down the wire I never see them...they are erased at the server where they should be destroyed.
Bob

pwd72s 06-26-2002 10:25 PM

Maybe this computer neophyte/illiterate is lucky...no problems here yet. But, we do send $ to McAfee, and whenever they offer an update, we click on it. Perhaps that's why I've been "lucky"?

john70t 06-26-2002 10:35 PM

Thanks for the info Emcon5, I was running ad-aware as well and was still getting strange hits on Zonealarm (even with deleting cookies with "eraser").
The junk mail is down to about 5 a day thankfully, and once upon a time I did have "Kaza" installed. After I sent a frantic note to Wayne I followed up and found it was from the Kaza port.

The strange thing was, I had uninstalled Kaza and reinstalled Windows after erasing it, and it alll happened in one day while I was on this board (what a coinsidence:rolleyes: ) without getting a tap for months before.

I also heard about another program called "unplug and pray" which, combined with the lastest security updates from MS should help somewhat.

dickster 06-26-2002 11:27 PM

i had two of the "this is my new game for you to try......." something like that, over the past couple of weeks.

if i don't know where it came from it gets deleted.:mad:

radcon 06-26-2002 11:50 PM

I have been getting a couple of these a day over the past couple weeks. Actually, I received dozens of similar emails about six months ago and then it finally fizzled out. Looks like someone is trying to circulate the same crap again. They usually have a .exe or .zip attachment which is a virus that supposedly attacks your email distribution lists if you use Microsoft Outlook and will send the virus to people on your distribution list and include a phony sender's address and bogus subject line. I forget what the actual virus will do to your computer though. I think it messes with the Kernel32 or something in your configuration and screws up Windows. If you happen to get several of these emails and have an email provider like AOL that allows you to view the details of the email routing, you will see that the sender's address listed on the email header is bogus and that the true address listed in the routing details will probably be the same for most of the emails. Anyways, it's bad. DON'T OPEN IT!!!!

Siena911 06-26-2002 11:56 PM

Outlook is automat-able i.e. scripts can be written to send emails to everyone in your address book. A way around this is to add an entry to your address book called something like

£$!Nobody

and do not give it an email address, when the worm/script tries to send to everyone in your address book, outlook complains that not all recipients had email addresses, and waits for you to sort it out, thereby stopping the spread.

A simple trick, it works, but then the writers of these scripts can get more clever and only choose half of your address book etc etc it keeps going round and round.

Hope this helps some of you

Cheers Jakes SmileWavy

paulhagedorn 06-27-2002 06:05 AM

For more info on this virus that is running around as well as a tool to scan your computer for it, go to
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.h@mm.html

This is what Norton points to everytime I get the virus in my email box. I am using Netscape's mail utility and get these things. I don't have an address book, so hopefully it can't be spread to others from my computer. They always get caught, and always get deleted.

emcon5 06-28-2002 08:37 AM

More fun viruses with Kazaa

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/25945.html

Tom

island911 06-28-2002 12:12 PM

The best security; air-gap.
 
FWIW; My "island911@..." accnt (one of 6 of my accnt's) rcvd a bunch of viruses recently. I removed my "email-me" link off my signature here, just to be safe . . er; and to slow down any internet mining programs.

A few "eyebrow raising" observations on what came my way:

The virus was never previewed (attachments were never opened, either -of course) and yet it spread.

The virus does not look just to the address book, but rather to addresses contained in any emails in your inbox.

Norton has been run (from boot disks) and yet says "no viruses found"

For those wondering, how do I know a virus was in that machine; I rcvd a string of "undeliverable Mail" messages, bounced back from closed accnt's . . .most of which were not in my address book.

As others have said, outlook allows scripting to happen in Outlook. Nice "feature" eh?
Don't conclude, as I did, that Microsoft would have this "feature" fixed in their latest release 6. That program cause even more problems for me (after a fresh install)

Microsoft, Norton -What a PITA, time wasting game they've created!
So Bob, Linux you say? May be just right for an internet appliance. Are you going to be at the Rainforest Roundup?

ferrari2porsche 06-28-2002 12:19 PM

more than likely they are from websites you visit. when you go in to a website, they may be getting your email address and spamming you with junk.

emcon5 06-28-2002 04:15 PM

Jack forwarded 3 of them to me, one was Spam for jobs at Radio Shack, one was a corrupt image file, and one was a small Javascript program (don't know what it does, don't want to find out). None of them checked out as viruses, with the current version of Mcafee.

A lot of Spam now has subject lines that don't indicate they are advertisements, for example, the Radio Shack mail had a subject of "Let's be friends"

Tom

john70t 06-28-2002 04:22 PM

There was an announcment about a virus developed in a experimental lab (not on the net yet) that can be contained within a picture image. No executables required.

From my own experience, Nortons either has a major bug in their renewal software, a major viral attack or both. Customer service and user friendliness they have not.

Bill Douglas 06-28-2002 07:23 PM

Hi Noah. I think they are floating about in CSI.com. What makes me think this is I sent you guys an email which Tom said you guys didn't get, then a few weeks later I got a reply or autoreply (I can't remember which). But from the day after I sent it I got a load of emails with .exe attachments which went on for a few weeks. Bill, SCWDP guy.

Wayne 962 06-28-2002 10:43 PM

This BBS shields your emails from everyone else. The only person who truly knows all your emails is me, and I certainly have not been sharing!

-Wayne

island911 07-01-2002 09:14 AM

It keeps coming, and coming.
 
Wayne@pelicanparts (origin)
Wayne@ . .. . (return path - sufix left out for this post)

This is what was in the last viral email I rcvd. (Klez BTW)
Not to say Wayne's cmptr (or Wayne himself :rolleyes: ) sent me a virus, but this thing is tricky, and many may not even know they have it.
FWIW:
Norton has a utility to remove this virus. I encourage everyone to consider their need for virus protection and fixes.
I have found that a Norton scan for this virus will find nothing. If however you run Nortons "fixklez" (from a floppy) it will find and remove this nasty little package.


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