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Wire Nuts? - Really?

So, I decided to replace the Rear turn signal rubber and ended up finding wire nuts and THHN wiring. My question is....does anyone sell the harness between the body plug and the housing? I really don't feel like doing surgery on both sides.

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I've seen front signal housing/headlight harnesses for sale from "MS Roadrace" on Ebay for a ridiculous price, like $350 per side. The rear is a bit less complicated so it should cost less, but I bet still more than you'd care to pay. Suggest you try the car recyclers, or splice with high quality crimps that include heat shrink covers with melt adhesive to ensure you get a watertight connection. Also, perhaps our host sells them?
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At least they taped it up! Must have been a real electrician....
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POS, freakin hate hacks, at least it wasn't office tape
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i see that all the time lol. best thing to do is simply solder the wires together and high quality electical tape. crimp connectors just dont hold up
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+1 Solder It then Heat Shrink!
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looks like they only played with the grounds ... from the view ...

I don't condone the wire nut but why not open it up and solder the wire and hit a bit of shrink wrap ???? until the next time the rubber needs to be replaced (15 years+) you and the few hundred of us would be the only ones that know your tail lamp is not as pretty on the inside as the out ....

or check with one of the wreckers around ...

I am sure with a few calls you could find one ....
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What did they have a doorbell spliced in there?
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What did they have a doorbell spliced in there?
Ha! Laughed long and hard after reading that one...thanks, Nick!
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+3 on just solder it up and wrap the whole harness with new electrical tape. Do you know what wire they spliced into? Maybe the jerry rigged something else.

I rebuilt my 1974 cars wiring, rather that replace the whole unit. Took the housing apart cleaned it and put it back together with new harnesses from the 7 pin plug to the inside of the taillight housing. I bought the harnesses from a Porsche dealer. I could not find and aftermarket source. They were like $100 each, but still a lot less than used housings (which would have had old mud incrusted dried out harnesses, and a lot less than new units.

I had to use caulk to reseal the housings, because that is apparently what the factory used. The housings are some cheap cast metal. I think they were not engineered to last 40 years!
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+1 Solder It then Heat Shrink!
thats how i would fix it.
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There's debate about solder. I would use a combo crimp and heat shrink connector.

The wire nut is a mechanical connection, it's not pretty but if it was well taped I doubt it would cause any problems.

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There's debate about solder. I would use a combo crimp and heat shrink connector.

The wire nut is a mechanical connection, it's not pretty but if it was well taped I doubt it would cause any problems.

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you have doubt? i dont.

i did auto electric work for a short while, and have been an electronics tech for the FAA for over 20 years, strip the wires, slide the ends together in an axial line, give them a twist and solder. slide the heat shrink over the solder joint and heat it.
(put the heat shrink onthe wire before you solder it)

the crimp connectors that you will likely use suck. electrical tape exposed to the elements will likely not stay on.

if done even half right, i promise you will never have to deal with it again.
i have seen more problems with crimp connectors than you can imagine.

i need to do a thread on wire splicing.
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you have doubt? i dont.

i did auto electric work for a short while, and have been an electronics tech for the FAA for over 20 years, strip the wires, slide the ends together in an axial line, give them a twist and solder. slide the heat shrink over the solder joint and heat it.
(put the heat shrink onthe wire before you solder it)

the crimp connectors that you will likely use suck. electrical tape exposed to the elements will likely not stay on.

if done even half right, i promise you will never have to deal with it again.
i have seen more problems with crimp connectors than you can imagine.

i need to do a thread on wire splicing.
I look forward to this thread and encourage you to follow up on this. Many thanks in advance!
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when I opened up one wall in my house - I found a hidden junction box with wire soldered together and then taped with medical tape (the white stuff)

what the hell !

some people - at least the wire nut is BIG - looks like some house speaker wire in there too
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that wire nut is probably to big for that wire.

junction boxes should not be hidden like that, but at least the wires were soldered. as for the tape, well.....

my last house, all the wires were soldered then taped or wire nutted, cant remember. i liked the way they were done, except it was a major pain to add any thing to the wiring.

it is amazing what people will do. the house i am in now, the PO used the ground wire for a hot wire on a 3 way circuit. my daughter said she was getting shocked, but i never did get shocked. finally i found out what was going on.
the PO had also run 240v to the shop and used the ground wire for the neutral for 120v. it ended up melting the circuit panel where it was tied into.
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I found wire nuts on the GREEN wire from the dissy to the CDI box, car ran great but sheeesh! try the western union splice it is used in aircraft so it should be ok for a car. MAKE | How-To: Splice Wire to NASA Standards
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clean the wires, clean the sodlering iron, solder and heat shrink.... thats all it needs. Its not mil spec, fly by wire stuff.
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RE soldering house wires

I have heard this is a HUGE no-no
if the circuit gets hot from use the solder can soften and drip causing a direct short and or fire

not to be too far OT
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