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theiceman 01-26-2013 04:49 PM

yeah those who think torque wrenches are the answer to everything really arent that experienced and just feel it is the cool thing to say.

a lot of things are done with experience and feel and banjo bolts are one of them . tighten slowly and once you feel the crush washers give a little , stop.

a lot of times i will use very short wrenches , or sockets with extensions and no handle. and just grab the extension. sometimes you have to invent your own engineering controls.

at a hundred dollar mistake ur still well ahead of the game. mechs cost more.

Bob Kontak 01-26-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Bixen (Post 7232572)
Bob, Sorry you took it personally. What I meant was that I felt stupid when I broke my second one.

Me, take it personally? What gives you that idea?

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SC-Alfa 01-26-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyGlenn (Post 7231979)
I was using one. What I was missing was the spec... so I guessed. And I guessed poorly. Frickin' idiotic thing to do, I know. :rolleyes:

Someone I admire once told me after I really f-ed something up. He said, "Well you learned from that and I bet you'll never do it again."

There is a simple elegance in that sentiment.

szyzygy 01-26-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 7232461)
Really???

I dare you to scan and post the torque specification for the oil sending unit electrical connection.

Bwa ha ha ha ha.

People are human beings. I take it you never made a mistake given your depth of insight. Thanks so fu*king much. Looking forward to your next tasty treat.

Try helping folks rather than dropping a deuce on them, Slick.

This

Sure, the OP spent $100 on stuff he broke, but the lessons learned are of much greater value.

timmy2 01-26-2013 05:40 PM

Those oils sender nuts are a PAIN... BTDT... It was only later I noticed you can just pull the connector off the spade to remove the wire...
My new one works well. :)
(Where do you guys think my sig line came from anyways?)

Jtt84911 01-26-2013 09:21 PM

Daddy Glen,
Like most of us who love these cars but don't earn a living work on them......"we feel your pain".

I credit your honesty versus some people in here (thankfully a minority) who come across like experts who've never screwed up a project.

I love reading posts when guys say "don't forget to..... Or..... Remember not to..... Then add ASK ME HOW I KNOW!!

That's what makes the PP FORUM second to none..... Sharing great information and unfortunately the mistakes...which helps others from repeating them!

JTT

andybullen 01-26-2013 09:40 PM

I think we've all over torqued at one time or another, if you know what I mean :)

kidrock 01-26-2013 09:47 PM

I feel the OP's pain. I just finished the same job a month or so ago. I don't believe there's a torque spec for that particular job in my Bentley, and even if there is one, I had so little room to work with that there is no physical way I could have used a torque wrench.

Additionally, those parts down there are pretty darn soft and fragile. +1 with theiceman here, best bet is to gently snug and test for leaks....and if necessary, snug a little more.

When those parts come in, you'll feel like an old pro when it comes to installing. Good luck, and disregard the coarse comments.

Wayne 962 01-26-2013 10:17 PM

Time to recalibrate the torque wrench! :)

-Wayne

BK911 01-27-2013 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by theiceman (Post 7232591)
a lot of things are done with experience and feel and banjo bolts are one of them . tighten slowly and once you feel the crush washers give a little , stop.

Yup. No torque wrench necessary. As soon as you can feel the crush washer crush, you are done.

redturbo911 01-27-2013 05:12 AM

That sucks. Its always rewarding when you do your own work but when you hit snags like this it sucks. Good luck and don't give up.

DaddyGlenn 02-16-2013 04:17 PM

Just to close out this issue.... Tom Butler hooked me up with a used sender at a reasonable price and our host provide the seals and the hollow bolt. All total, it was about a $60 day. This time I went finger tight then put the wrench on to just snug the bolt.

and I'm back on track....

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mossguy 02-16-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brighton911 (Post 7231836)
There should be some kind of warning meter one can buy that says " don't touch anything today, it will turn out bad". I have had a time or two when I wished I had walked by instead of starting on something. All part of the magic of growin' up!

Biorythms!

Jrboulder 02-16-2013 05:04 PM

I guess $60 isn't too bad for a "learn the hard way" kind of lesson on a Porsche.

My sander did about $2000 in damage to my paint today... but it was intentional :)

burgermeister 02-17-2013 07:03 AM

You can have an opportunity for more mayhem by following this thread:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/625848-oil-pressure-sedning-unit-generic-replacement.html

It actually did work for me - no issues so far. I don't think the gauges are $30 anymore though.
Do not buy a URO sender - I bought one off fleabay (that was not identified as one), decided to try it anyway, and it went flaky in short order.

kuehl 02-17-2013 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyGlenn (Post 7231671)
FUCH!! ]

Ohhhhh. so that's where those wheels go their name !


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