Pelican Parts Forums

Pelican Parts Forums (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/)
-   Porsche 911 Technical Forum (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/)
-   -   3.2 oxygen sensor issue (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/733292-3-2-oxygen-sensor-issue.html)

BE911SC 02-09-2013 05:03 PM

3.2 oxygen sensor issue
 
Yes, I searched and found good info but I still need to ask. Performed most of the 60K service on my '84 yesterday and when replacing the O2 sensor I found that the lower plug was broken. Pulled the old sensor, tried to epoxy it back together (sorry, had to try), that failed, so now the new sensor is connected normally on the upper, 3-prong part, but not on the lower, single prong part. Car ran like a champ after the tune-up with the O2 not fully connected. Any thoughts on how to proceed?

On a side note, the car ran great after the tune, noticeably better, but then today on the PNW Pelican XXX drive, after maybe 80 miles of driving, the car started to run slightly rough at idle and has continued to have a slight roughness at idle. Car still drives fine, just a new, different sound to the idle. Not a miss but almost a miss-like sound. Maybe a little rich too as it smelled rich after shut-off.

Thanks in advance.

Broken female end:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps7157f807.jpg

Broken male end with a dab of JB epoxy (fail):

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps5fd65d90.jpg

DRACO A5OG 02-09-2013 07:20 PM

it is toast, just get a male and female bullet style connectors and solder it on and use heat shrink, take carefull attention to the sheilding.

find a piece of hose same od of the clamp, slip it on to hold it in place.

BE911SC 02-09-2013 07:45 PM

Thanks Draco, I'll do that. It was already broken before I bought the car (PPI missed that) so it didn't seem to effect the way it runs.

ivangene 02-09-2013 08:01 PM

Jim,
I saw this car today..its a time capsule..real beauty

Have you seen this fixed and have ideas were to source parts that will look OEM?
Any pics or threads been posted ?

DRACO A5OG 02-09-2013 08:21 PM

Here you go:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...125_160615.jpg

DRACO A5OG 02-09-2013 09:17 PM

a better pic,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...703_191556.jpg

ivangene 02-10-2013 05:00 AM

Awesome Jim!

BE911SC 02-10-2013 06:59 AM

Yep, looks like a no-brainer!

DRACO A5OG 02-10-2013 07:29 AM

To make sure about the shielding, take apart that crumbled connect to see exactly how it is assembled so you can duplicate the solder/connection, this connector supposedly takes air samples from the engine bay :eek:

BE911SC 02-10-2013 09:08 AM

Okay, thanks, will do.

BE911SC 02-10-2013 01:03 PM

Upon further review...
 
More searching revealed this thread that I had missed before:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/497025-o2-sensor-connector.html

PM sent to Louie85 with fingers crossed.

I love this place. :D

DRACO A5OG 02-10-2013 01:22 PM

just make sure you address the shielding no matter what you do, it is critcial for the DME to operate the o2s properly.

BE911SC 02-10-2013 01:43 PM

Roger that.

So can I drive it in the meantime?

DRACO A5OG 02-10-2013 02:19 PM

Heck yeah, our euro brother don't even have a o2s :-)

But not too long, you will over work your DME because it was programed with it.

BE911SC 02-10-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 7264009)

HA! I just noticed that the upper retaining clip on your sensor plug is broken. Guess what I did today? I broke mine the same way trying to disconnect it and yes, I was being careful.

Quicksilver 02-10-2013 03:27 PM

Do not solder the connector on an O2 sensor. The O2 sensor uses air pulled through the conductor as part of its operation.

Sounds weird and I know someone will cry "Bull!" so let's hear it from Bosch...
http://www.boschautoparts.com/BAP_Technical_Resources%2FOxygen%20Sensors%2FO2Ins tallGDWEB09.pdf

Quicksilver 02-10-2013 03:31 PM

Dupped post...

BE911SC 02-10-2013 03:36 PM

Thanks Wayne, I did read that Bosch article in another thread while searching today.

BE911SC 02-10-2013 07:13 PM

Hooray! Louie answered my PM and his broken O2 sensor repair kit is on the way!

I love this place!

Louie85 02-10-2013 07:36 PM

BE911SC. The green wire coming out from the wiring harness is very short not much you can do there unless you remove the whole harness. You can try to crumble the rest of existing connector to get an extra 1/2 inch. I would just cut it at the end of the connector, carefully trim the shielding about 3/8 of an inch. Then strip the inner wire about 1/4 inch and crimp the electrical connector then secure with heat shrink.

DRACO A5OG 02-10-2013 08:00 PM

Outstanding, let us know how it went :D

BE911SC 02-19-2013 04:11 PM

Success! Took a while because I over-think simple stuff but I got Louie's trick replacement part installed today. Runs like a champ! Nice positive connection too--Louie's part has a longer metal shaft that gets all the way into the O2 sensor boot connection.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psceb05ac0.jpg

BE911SC 03-02-2013 12:17 PM

Update
 
Update: After connecting Louie85's neat replacement O2 sensor connector two weeks ago I read more posts in this thread. Well, I realized that I had grounded the coaxial shielding to the core wire and thus still had a non-functioning O2 sensor signal. The car ran poorly so my hunch was correct. My buddy Thor (Brown747) came over early this morning and dove in. He, being more competent than me, was able to access more of the sensor wire and get it out to where he could properly strip the shielding back, heat-shrink it out of the way and crimp+solder an eyelet onto the center wire. Viola! Car started, idled and ran like a champ! Never better. Went out for a 2-ship drive and the cab is running amazingly well now. No more fussy idle and rich smell out the back. Sure is nice to have competent friends!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psf13edc12.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps6c4b3ef7.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps417e50b0.jpg

asianimages 09-12-2014 02:18 PM

Where did you buy the white sensor plug? mine is broken and can not find the part.
Thanks
Tommy

BE911SC 09-16-2014 09:35 PM

Pelican Louie85 made them and may still have some for sale. Look him up here.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:03 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website


DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.