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I think the technology will be more readily available to the average consumer in 10-15 maybe even 20 years. Great idea for reproducing nla parts, but it does not work out economically in today's world.
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jay leno talks about it
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My first experience with it a few years ago, I couldn't stop putting together and taking apart a bolt and nut.
Wasn't as impressed about putting together the 3D parts to a metal structure and fitting precisely as I was that you can make a bolt and nut. I was trying to find a "bad spot" in the threads of either the bolt or nut but could not. Was sold. |
There is an exhibition about 3D printing in Zürich now. Was there, some really impressive parts to see. Especially the ones that are printed in one row, but have links etc. like a middle ages chain armour:
In 3 Dimensions A friend of mine sells 3D printers too, as he is in machine tool buisiness. The quality is stunning, same strength etc. as the base metal |
The 3D scanners are also readily available. You can pay a ton and get accuracy way under .001". You can also pick up a Xbox 360 sensor and take scans using free software. I took a scan of my lovely wife this way and printed a bust of her; worked quite well.
This would allow someone to take a broken piece, or organic shapes, scan it, and create a new one with only a modest amount of CAD knowledge and processing. |
3D printing is already useful at the consumer level for tons of stuff, including limited applications in cars, but you need an enthusiast DIY mindset and some understanding of the tech. From the standpoint of availability/cost, I'd put it on par with laser printers for the home in the late eighties right now. Consumer 3D printing is progressing so much faster as an industry than even that though, because the limitations are overcome today by massively collaborative online communities of enthusiasts instead of many distinct hobbyists reinventing the wheel over and over again.
I'd suggest reading Makers: The New Industrial Revolution, for anyone looking to get introduced to the technology. Anyone with some CAD experience who wants to actually play with the technology should look for a local MakerSpace or HackerSpace to find someone who will likely let you use theirs. -N |
Its crazy how much this has been in the news lately. The technology is pretty well along. I graduated undergrad in 2000 and we had a machine in our lab. My current workplace bought their machine, which can print 12"x12" ABS nearly 7 years ago and it was only 40k I think. You should be able to use 3rd party vendors to print stuff pretty cheaply these days. The overhead is less than machining for sure.
I had a couple Ideas for projects to make on the side for lotus and porsche guys, but didnt feel comfortable using the company machine (me buying material of course). I think there are many good applications for the technology beyond prototyping. When laser sintering and metal prototyping is a bit more mature, things will get really fun. |
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There are still a lot of trade offs with rapid prototyping that limit prototyping for direct use. Surface finish, color, structural performance, chemical, light and UV stability being some of the first things that come to mind in my experience using rapid prototyping with with resins and thermoplastic machines. Often times the performance and finish requirements will conflict with each other. I am still waiting for the machine that will print ABS OR a temp/chemical resistant thermoset with a class A surface in the color I want =) When this machine arrives, THEN we can start talking direct replacement of parts no longer available. This day IS coming!!!! :D The high butterfly MFI stacks for instance asfaik, can not be printed with a class A smooth high polish surface matching the original parts that in an ABS material (I would choose ABS for structural integrity). You could certainly print the entire structure though and have a working part in a red or black material color. (estimating here- each part would probably cost $4-600+). |
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can you guys talk about strength for the metal 3D printing a bit?
is it comparable to a sand cast part? low pressure casting? also, can you make a mold (for say CF or FG layup, or casting metals) more cheaply with 3D printing? can you have a sensor move over an existing part, then use that to program the 3D sensor? |
I read an on line article where I guy did this for brake cooling ducts on a street track S2000. I thought that would be a perfect application for our cars, he did not share the cost but indicated it was not terribly expensive. I willl see if I can post a link to the article.
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We have had one of our casting suppliers make rapid prototype parts and use them as the mold for investment casting. Basically they make the plastic part with some tubes attached, cover it in plaster, melt it out, and fill the empty mold with metal. Not good enough for production costs but allows you to test things out without spending $500k+ on tooling. |
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I'm a product designer and deal with CAD modeling and 3d printing all the time. For home use, nothing really beats Shapeways - Make, buy, and sell products with 3D Printing. They have EXTREMELY competitive pricing in a variety of materials, you can spec what you need and they charge by the cubic cm. I've ordered a few things from them and they've always been superb.
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I picked up my first 3d printer recently and have been both amazed and disappointed. Its certainly not plug and play, but after a few months I'm able to build/manipulate models to print well. The initial parts i'm thinking about for my '70 Targa are horn grils and lenses, using the proto for molds and vacuum form poly for the end product...thinking LED's should be incorporated as well...too many grounding issues with my original buckets. I also desperately need a holder to easily view my phone/GPS, as I often don't know where I'm going. ;)
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