Transmission Split options

sojahseh · 03-26-2013, 05:34 AM

Ok, so I've gotten myself in a jam a little bit this morning. After having the drivetrain out of the car for a few days, it came time to separate the transmission from the block. Problem being that I did not take off either of the clutch arms while the motor was in the car.

What't the easiest way to remove that linkage now that the drivetrain is on a dolly?

I'm imagining lifting the whole thing up with straps from the bottom of the motor, but it seems like to would be tought to work on it without being able to apply a whole lot of torque to anything.

Can anyone think of a better way? Is there a trick to removing that linkage from the top?

Thanks All,

-Matt

pete3799 · pete3799's Garage

Just remove the small arm and you can separate them. The large arm should spin freely on the shaft allowing the shift fork to rotate as you separate them.

sojahseh · 03-26-2013, 06:04 AM

Can you remove it, or how would you remove it while looking at the motor from above?

pete3799 · pete3799's Garage

Got to get under it to remove the clip and arm.

sojahseh · 03-26-2013, 06:42 AM

Ok.

Are there circlips on both arms? They don't seem abundantly obvious in that picture...

schumicat · 03-26-2013, 06:51 AM

no just the small one.

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Originally Posted by sojahseh

Ok.

Are there circlips on both arms? They don't seem abundantly obvious in that picture...

sojahseh · 03-26-2013, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by schumicat

no just the small one.

OK, I got the small one off. Is there some magic as to how to remove the larger arm? Heat and pressure?

boyt911sc · boyt911sc's Garage

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Originally Posted by sojahseh

Ok, so I've gotten myself in a jam a little bit this morning. After having the drivetrain out of the car for a few days, it came time to separate the transmission from the block. Problem being that I did not take off either of the clutch arms while the motor was in the car.

What't the easiest way to remove that linkage now that the drivetrain is on a dolly?

I'm imagining lifting the whole thing up with straps from the bottom of the motor, but it seems like to would be tought to work on it without being able to apply a whole lot of torque to anything.

Can anyone think of a better way? Is there a trick to removing that linkage from the top?

Thanks All,

-Matt

Matt,

How's the engine and transmission currently set-up? Do you have it on a dolly? Post a picture so people would have a better idea how it is sitting now. All you need is access to the circlip that holds the clutch position lever in place. Remove the circlip and clutch position lever (small arm with spring attached) and 4 securing nuts by the transmission bell housing and you are done!!!!! Keep us posted.

Tony

sojahseh · 03-26-2013, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by boyt911sc

Matt,

How's the engine and transmission currently set-up? Do you have it on a dolly? Post a picture so people would have a better idea how it sitting now. All you need is access to the circlip that holds the clutch position lever in place. Remove the circlip and clutch position lever (small arm with spring attached) and 4 securing nuts by the transmission bell housing and you are done!!!!! Keep us posted.

Tony

Good idea. Coming Right up...

schumicat · 03-26-2013, 07:29 AM

I use a small prybar. it should come off pretty easily. you don't need to really pry it, just pop it free.

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Originally Posted by sojahseh

OK, I got the small one off. Is there some magic as to how to remove the larger arm? Heat and pressure?

sojahseh · 03-26-2013, 07:31 AM

Is it essential that the large clutch arm be removed? It is free of the rest of the linkage.

sojahseh · 03-26-2013, 07:35 AM

Pics...

My apologies for the still pretty dirty state. This is after a valiant effort to degrease the whole works....

Here is the before picture:

sojahseh · 03-26-2013, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pete3799

Just remove the small arm and you can separate them. The large arm should spin freely on the shaft allowing the shift fork to rotate as you separate them.

Small arm has been removed. The large arm does not want to budge. Maybe the transmission is not in neutral? Does it need to be?

K Sykes · K Sykes's Garage

As long as it can swing freely, no. Trans should come off easy now

sojahseh · 03-26-2013, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by K Sykes

As long as it can swing freely, no. Trans should come off easy now

it doesn't budge.

sojahseh · 03-26-2013, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by K Sykes

As long as it can swing freely, no. Trans should come off easy now

Does it matter if the transmission is in gear?

K Sykes · K Sykes's Garage

Didn't see your second post. You should be able to pull off the transmission now. Arm won't move because the fork is engaged. But will move with the tranny being pulled off. Not sure I'm being clear, but just go ahead and separate it now.

K Sykes · K Sykes's Garage

Two quick questions;
Is the helper (omega) spring off?
As it's sitting on the dolly, is the big arm free to rotate?

And one other quick question - the starter is removed right?

I did the same thing you did - remember the lever needed to come out after it was on the dolly.. I feel your pain

sojahseh · 03-26-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by K Sykes

Two quick questions;
Is the helper (omega) spring off?
As it's sitting on the dolly, is the big arm free to rotate?

And one other quick question - the starter is removed right?

I did the same thing you did - remember the lever needed to come out after it was on the dolly.. I feel your pain

The starter is off.

The big arm won;t budge at all, in any direction.

Is the large arm supposed to move freely? I think it may be seized to the shaft.

schumicat · 03-26-2013, 10:33 AM

I would spray some pb blaster on it, whack it a few times with a mallet and wait a couple hours and try again with the pry bar.