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pc100porsche 04-25-2013 03:15 PM

How Do I Add Ipod To Blaupunkt Reno ?
 
Anyone added an Ipod connection to a Blaupunkt Reno successfully ?
My very experienced radio guy tells me it cannot be done ?

Cattler 04-25-2013 05:02 PM

You can always use an RF transmitter via a locally unused FM frequency. Its not as clean, but I doubt you'd notice the extra noise over the road, engine, etc.

James Brown 04-25-2013 05:05 PM

cassette adapter works pretty good, there are some specialty stereo shops on the web that do that like these guys SW STEREO SPECIALISTS - European Car Audio Products

spuggy 04-25-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pc100porsche (Post 7407722)
Anyone added an Ipod connection to a Blaupunkt Reno successfully ?
My very experienced radio guy tells me it cannot be done ?

If your Blaupunkt has an AUX input (don't most of them?), the Blaupunkt ipod interface presents the iPod as a CD changer to the head unit. Just about all Baupunkts know how to deal with one of those.

Interface is kind of clunky, and you need to mess about with playlists and the like. However, it charges the iPod, shows track information on the head unit, lets you control the playing music from the head unit (as though it were a CD changer).

There's another Blaupunkt cable that provides line-in to the AUX from an iPod - but you need AUX input for that, too. Don't know if that charges the iPod or not. It certainly doesn't provide control of the tracks/playlists from the head unit (which is just being used as an amplifier/speaker system).

The RF transmitters IMO are completely useless. Terrible sound, drive 20 miles and have to re-tune to avoid the local station blasting over what used to be an "empty" space in the band etc.

If you have an AUX interface on your Reno, I suggest the appropriate thingy Blaupunkt built for the job gives the best results: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BFJ3T8

In the interest of full disclosure, I should point out the used one offered there is actually mine - and that I removed the Blaupunkt Memphis it was attached to (for 2 weeks) and replaced the head unit with an Alpine iDA-x100, precisely because the iPod integration on the Blaupunkt did not please me. Might be fine for limited use.

Norm Faustino 04-25-2013 09:10 PM

Sounds like your very experienced radio guy needs a lesson in 2013 tech. These days there is a way to interface practically anything.;)

dobrjan 04-25-2013 10:34 PM

I have just done this on my Blaupunkt SQR 47 Atlanta. I believe these two models are almost identical - in fact they share the same electrical schematics. (I can email these to you if you need them)

There is two parts to this: (this method does require you to open up your stereo unit and solder wires onto the electrical board)

1. First you have to input the signal from your iPod to the stereo.
2. The Second part is muting the radio signal


1. This process does involve soldering your AUX 3.5mm jack to the tape deck control board (PL-17 on the electrical schematic). You will need to solder the Right-Left and Ground wires to the board. This will allow the signal to go through your stereo unit.

2. You will have to mute the radio signal (as you will have two signals going through your unit, one from your radio and one from your iPod). This is done by activating the mute signal on your board. (essentially simulating what happens when you enter a tape in your tape deck). What happens is a 8.5 volt signal is sent to mute the radio signal. What you have to do is solder in a switch that allows you to turn on/off the 8.5V to the 'radio mute' allowing you to go from your iPod signal back to your radio signal. This method still allows you to play your tapes. There are other methods that I came across that permanently hack you tape deck.


This method gives you the best quality sound output. FM transmitters/tape adapters will not give you the quality sound this method does.

I did not find any AUX plug and play style connectors for the 8 din pin connector these stereos have. To my knowledge these are used for output only, meaning it sends a signal from your stereo deck to amp or equalizer. I don't think you can use it to at input to your unit.

There is nothing better than having the original vintage radio in your 911 but still being able to play your tunes from your iPod.

I could do this for you, but I am from Melbourne Australia, shipping would be around 100 return.

Cheers
dobrjan

nineball 04-26-2013 08:08 AM

get a wired fm modulator. it plugs inline with your antenna. very easy to do.

Metra 44-FMMOD03 (44fmmod03) 2-Channel, Universal FM Stereo

1-ev.com 04-26-2013 08:54 AM

We've used This setup on all our cars, works like a champ, and it cost = $50 :D Plus my $$$ labor :D

Belkin Bluetooth Music Receiver:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366995103.jpg

Belkin connected to this "PAC IS31 iSimple Universal Auxiliary Input for FM" or similar , witch connects to any radio:


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366995185.jpg

You can use this instead of iSimple http://www.amazon.com/Blaupunkt-AUX-2-Second-Auxiliary-Adapter/dp/B0002IEAME/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_3

A horse with no name 04-28-2013 09:03 PM

Would like to try it.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dobrjan (Post 7408211)
I have just done this on my Blaupunkt SQR 47 Atlanta. I believe these two models are almost identical - in fact they share the same electrical schematics. (I can email these to you if you need them)

There is two parts to this: (this method does require you to open up your stereo unit and solder wires onto the electrical board)

1. First you have to input the signal from your iPod to the stereo.
2. The Second part is muting the radio signal


1. This process does involve soldering your AUX 3.5mm jack to the tape deck control board (PL-17 on the electrical schematic). You will need to solder the Right-Left and Ground wires to the board. This will allow the signal to go through your stereo unit.

2. You will have to mute the radio signal (as you will have two signals going through your unit, one from your radio and one from your iPod). This is done by activating the mute signal on your board. (essentially simulating what happens when you enter a tape in your tape deck). What happens is a 8.5 volt signal is sent to mute the radio signal. What you have to do is solder in a switch that allows you to turn on/off the 8.5V to the 'radio mute' allowing you to go from your iPod signal back to your radio signal. This method still allows you to play your tapes. There are other methods that I came across that permanently hack you tape deck.


This method gives you the best quality sound output. FM transmitters/tape adapters will not give you the quality sound this method does.

I did not find any AUX plug and play style connectors for the 8 din pin connector these stereos have. To my knowledge these are used for output only, meaning it sends a signal from your stereo deck to amp or equalizer. I don't think you can use it to at input to your unit.

There is nothing better than having the original vintage radio in your 911 but still being able to play your tunes from your iPod.

I could do this for you, but I am from Melbourne Australia, shipping would be around 100 return.

Cheers
dobrjan

Hi Dobrjan... I would like to do what you have explained but to a Blaupunkt 'New York SCD 08'. The CD player is one that you have to put a CD into an individual cartridge then into the player... Not a good system. It quite working some years ago and it really is not worth the price they want to repair it.

At the moment I am using my iPod -Touch directly off of the aftermarket amp. It works OK in that the radio 'powers' the amp on but I have to control the sound through the itouch... To be able to do so through the radio would be great.*

I do have the service manual that includes all of the schematics... Would it be possible for me to email them to you to have a look at? If so after perusing them
I would appreciate it if you could advise me where I should solder the ground wires of the iPod touch AUX jack to on this 'New York' model, including of course where to solder the switch to for the iPod - Touch signal.

Maybe best to PM me - Thanks.

pc100porsche 04-29-2013 03:06 AM

Hi Horse w/o name you seem to have broken thru the rails and strayed onto my side of the track ......

Anyone actually added an Ipod direct input to a Blaupunkt Reno ?

1-ev.com 04-29-2013 09:04 AM

My set up will work with ANY radio: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/746616-how-do-i-add-ipod-blaupunkt-reno.html#post7408841
also, nineball setup is similar http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/746616-how-do-i-add-ipod-blaupunkt-reno.html#post7408745

Quote:

Originally Posted by pc100porsche (Post 7412864)
Anyone actually added an Ipod direct input to a Blaupunkt Reno ?


Tremelune 04-29-2013 09:53 AM

It doesn't look like these solutions do AVRCP (which allows you to control the iPhone via the head unit). At least with my iPhone, that makes it a dangerous deal-breaker. That said, to start wiring your head unit such that it would control your iPhone would probably take some reverse engineering, soldering, and an Arduino...

For my E30, I left the stock radio in the dash (disconnected) and put a modern head unit in the glovebox where I couldn't see it. I wired an IR receiver and just use a little remote to control everything. It is not ideal, but it works well and is receptive to future changes.

For my Porsche I just got over it and put in a Pioneer DEH-PRS80. It behaves as expected and will go completely dark after five seconds of use so that I don't notice it, particularly at night.

A horse with no name 04-29-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pc100porsche (Post 7412864)
Hi Horse w/o name you seem to have broken thru the rails and strayed onto my side of the track ......

Anyone actually added an Ipod direct input to a Blaupunkt Reno ?

Hee Haw!...I only jumped out of a smaller corral into a larger one ...Still kicking 'to be free';)

Being that your radio has a cassette player, Dobrjan's way of going about it seems to be the way to go for a direct hook up with full control... He wired his direct to an Atlantic 47 which also has a cassette so it should work for a Reno.

Unfotunately I haven't yet heard back from Dobrjan to see if it is possible to do the same to mine. You can down load the complete service manual that has the complete schematic on line - I think I paid $10.00 for mine.

I did have a car with a CD player some years ago, and what worked very well was an adapter that had a cassette blank wired to it. I had purchased it at BestBuy.

At the time I had a 'mini disk' mp3 player that I plugged into it...As I was saying, it did work well. Other than that I understand that you only have the option (best) of Dobrjand's way, an FM unit, directly off the amp but with IPod touch control only....And of course a new rado that comes with an iPod Aux

I recently read that a Reno has and Aux. output for a CD player...If that is so, then I would think that it may provide a solution .

'Nineball ' is a real true radio guru so maybe he could tell you/us more about this CD Aux on a Reno.

A little edit here...While tapping this out ' Tremelune' has added another option...

nineball 04-29-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremelune (Post 7413403)
It doesn't look like these solutions do AVRCP (which allows you to control the iPhone via the head unit). At least with my iPhone, that makes it a dangerous deal-breaker. That said, to start wiring your head unit such that it would control your iPhone would probably take some reverse engineering, soldering, and an Arduino...

as far as i know there is no aftermarket solution that will enable something as old as the head units in our cars to actually control an ipod. our units are 25-40 year old technology, they just don't mesh.

the only solution i have ever found appears to be nla. it was a kensington liquidaux deluxe and i still run one in my car. it was a charger/holder for the iphone/ipod that gave you an aux-out line, but it came with a little remote that gave you the basic ipod functions (track forward / back, play / pause, stop). here is the link but like i said it is nla.

Amazon.com: Kensington LiquidAUX Deluxe Auxiliary Car Kit with Remote for iPod; iPhone 1G, 3G: Electronics

maint 05-04-2013 08:55 AM

How do you open the stereo case up ? I just had a Reno shipped to me and it needs some off the contacts cleaned and I would like to see what is involved in wiring an I-pod jack. Someone has been prying at a couple of spots on the case and I want to avoid adding more marks to it.

83_Silberpfeil 05-04-2013 09:14 AM

Swap it out. Put in a Blaupunkt Toronto BT400 series. Plug n Play!

Quote:

Anyone added an Ipod connection to a Blaupunkt Reno successfully ?<br>
My very experienced radio guy tells me it cannot be done ?

maint 05-04-2013 10:17 AM

Would if I could, but in BC Collector plates save a LOT on insurance. Rules say any radio has to have been available +/_ 2 years from build date.

Joe Bob 05-04-2013 11:49 AM

Woody's on eBy sells modified peiod correct radios with iPod jacks. Bet you can pick one up and exchange it...keep the original or sell it to recover costs. You could break even.

I bought one for my 356. Worked as advertised......also one for one of my 914s.

Tremelune 05-05-2013 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maint (Post 7422804)
Rules say any radio has to have been available +/_ 2 years from build date.

...What?

maint 05-05-2013 10:23 PM

Government insurance in BC. To qualify for collector plates ( about 1/4 the insurance cost of normal) there are rules.
"Your vehicle must be
*25 years old or limited run, or orphan
* in exceedingly good condition (for example, no dents, scratches, rust, chips in the paint, visible primer, tears in the interior);
* in a condition that conforms to the original manufacturer's specifications (no non-approved parts and accessories added); and
* maintained in the same condition when originally approved for collector plates."

when you read more details "tires must be within 1" of stock size, only aftermarket add ons that could have been installed when car was new, and stock radio or one that could have been installed within +/- 2 years. They are very fussy. I had to send 16 pictures, at the angles they stipulate, with the form. Still waiting to see if they approve

A horse with no name 05-05-2013 11:22 PM

Some of your expert input please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nineball (Post 7413500)
as far as i know there is no aftermarket solution that will enable something as old as the head units in our cars to actually control an ipod. our units are 25-40 year old technology, they just don't mesh.

the only solution i have ever found appears to be nla. it was a kensington liquidaux deluxe and i still run one in my car. it was a charger/holder for the iphone/ipod that gave you an aux-out line, but it came with a little remote that gave you the basic ipod functions (track forward / back, play / pause, stop). here is the link but like i said it is nla.

Amazon.com: Kensington LiquidAUX Deluxe Auxiliary Car Kit with Remote for iPod; iPhone 1G, 3G: Electronics


Hi Nineball...Thanks for the info. I have read many of your audio posts with interest - Good stuff!

I would have liked to run my iPhone directly from the radio as Dobrjan did. I sent a PM to him - actually two- but unfortunately I haven't heard back from him. Must be away.


Preamble: I have an amp that I run my iPhone directly off of but it only has one set of inputs so I just pulled the radio's RCA's out and plugged in a new RCA cable for the iPhone - All the 'head' does now is turn the amp on and off.

Question: To be able to use the radio, is there some kind of switch?/splitter? that would allow me to use one or the other through this one input?...I have searched around the web looking for something but I haven't been able to find anything.

I wouldn't mind if it was a manual type switch/slitter at the amp. The amp is mounted on the right side of the luggage area so I ran the wires through a grommet that had a couple of looms entering around the back of the glove box.

What I did find on the web that others may also find of interest was this remote that will allow me to adjust the volume including changing tracts...Inexpensive - $40.00 - plus it can also be used in the house.
Satechi Bluetooth Multi-Media Remote Control for iPhone, iPad & All Bluetooth OS Devices

Looking forward to your thoughts on the matter. Thanks

nineball 05-06-2013 05:00 AM

i have never heard of any a/b switch type thing that would do what you want to but there is a very easy solution. just get a set of dual female to single male rca 'y' cables. the only thing you would have to watch out for would be running both your iphone and your headunit at the same time, but so long as you don't you should be fine.

Tremelune 05-06-2013 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maint (Post 7425077)
Government insurance in BC. To qualify for collector plates ( about 1/4 the insurance cost of normal) there are rules.

Wow.

That is serious.

A horse with no name 05-06-2013 10:08 AM

IPod switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nineball (Post 7425337)
i have never heard of any a/b switch type thing that would do what you want to but there is a very easy solution. just get a set of dual female to single male rca 'y' cables. the only thing you would have to watch out for would be running both your iphone and your headunit at the same time, but so long as you don't you should be fine.

That's what I'll do - Being that I am using the radio to power up the amp I would now need to wire in a separate power switch for the iPod . Thanks for the easy solution.

nineball 05-06-2013 04:31 PM

you may run into a problem then. when you have the radio on it will have an output signal even with the volume at 0. this may cause a problem for you amp as it will be receiving two signals at the same time. i have never tried this so i can't say for certain what will happen but my money is on something not good.

if you are set on doing it this way i would change your remote turn on line to something on the ignition circuit instead of the headunit so that the amp is on when the car is on regardless of what the headunit is doing. i think this would be a safer option.

A horse with no name 05-06-2013 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nineball (Post 7426675)
you may run into a problem then. when you have the radio on it will have an output signal even with the volume at 0. this may cause a problem for you amp as it will be receiving two signals at the same time. i have never tried this so i can't say for certain what will happen but my money is on something not good.

if you are set on doing it this way i would change your remote turn on line to something on the ignition circuit instead of the head unit so that the amp is on when the car is on regardless of what the head unit is doing. i think this would be a safer option.

Hmmmm...I think what the most practical way for me to go in order to use the radio is to just unplug the iPod's RCA and plug in the radio's.
Thanks nineball - and others- for all of your suggestions....The benefit of your suggestions was that I found the iPod remote when I was doing some internet research on the items mention...Things 'happen' in a 'strange way eh;) - Thanks again to everyone.

nineball 05-07-2013 04:32 PM

i agree. since you found the remote i would really suggest you get a nice fm modulator (wired, not wireless) and go that route. you would still control everything from the headunit - volume, amp turn on, etc while retaining use of the ipod with it's own remote. you could run the line up into the glove box and leave the ipod there safe out of sight.

dobrjan 05-07-2013 07:12 PM

Hi Michael (a horse with no name)

Apologies for not getting back to you sooner-have been busy at work and haven't been on here for awhile. Sometimes I can spend an entire work day on here so its probably a good thing.

I sent you an email outlining what is involve with the IPOD hack for the SQR 46 RENO. Let me know if you need some more help, please send through the schematic and I can take a look. I should actually write up a more detailed how-to-do guide and post it on here. I emailed you a little cheat sheet that should help – but its for the RENO/ATLANTA.

I checked and the radio should be identical to the SQR 47, so the process will work.
But did you say you have a Blaupunkt New York SCD08? if you have a schematic I can have a look at it. I think I should have sent that email to @pc100porsche and @maint as they have the RENO. Send me your emails so that I can forward the email I sent to Michael.

I purchased by schematics from User-Manuals.com: Owner's Manuals and Service Manuals - no issues (most of these sites look pretty dodgey), purchased several manuals and received all of them via email a few hours after purchase. They have most Blaupunkt models, radios, amps, equalizers etc..

Sorry for being naive but I haven't figured out how to post images on here? do you have to upload them to a image sharing site i.e. flickr and link the URL to here. If someone can help me with that I can post some pics of what I have done.

john baldwin 08-02-2014 04:49 PM

Bumping this thread to thank pc100porsche for emailing me a copy of the Reno SQR manual. Hopefully any others who need this might benefit.
j

JimmyT 12-24-2019 08:56 AM

Kevin sent me a copy of the manual as well.
He displays the Holiday spirit year round!


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