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kugelfischer 06-26-2013 08:57 PM

Remove spark plugs from hot engine?
 
Is it advisable to remove spark plugs from a hot engine? Anything wring with re torquing them in hot heads?
I'd like to check my plug color immediately after a nice stretch of high revs.
For some reason I am remembering some old advice against removing and reinstalling plugs in a hot engine.

tazzieman 06-26-2013 09:31 PM

Spark Plug Installation Instructions

mossguy 06-26-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tazzieman (Post 7518391)

Somewhat of a non-answer. I don't know either.

tazzieman 06-26-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mossguy (Post 7518397)
Somewhat of a non-answer. I don't know either.

Did you actually read it?
Quote:

Of course, you should only install spark plugs in a cool engine, because metal expands when its hot and installation may prove difficult.
...and torque figures may be incorrect...
Why dont' we open the antiseize-no antiseize debate again whilst we're here?

mossguy 06-26-2013 10:01 PM

I scanned the whole article, missing that sentence (and probably others). My apologies.

E Sully 06-27-2013 04:28 AM

The article states not to install when hot, but does not say anything about removal. Since the aluminum expands when hot it may be easier to remove them.

tazzieman 06-27-2013 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by E Sully (Post 7518550)
The article states not to install when hot, but does not say anything about removal. Since the aluminum expands when hot it may be easier to remove them.

Plenty of experienced guys here recommend checking plugs after a good hard drive...pull over to the side of the road/track etc. And check plugs.

Problem is , if you want to get going immediately you've got to put 'em back in hot!
Or if you are like me and live at the top of a long hill , just drop into 2nd and scream up! After a good cuppa , wander back out and put plugs in again, cold.

kugelfischer 06-27-2013 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tazzieman (Post 7518559)
Plenty of experienced guys here recommend checking plugs after a good hard drive...pull over to the side of the road/track etc. And check plugs.

Problem is , if you want to get going immediately you've got to put 'em back in hot!
Or if you are like me and live at the top of a long hill , just drop into 2nd and scream up! After a good cuppa , wander back out and put plugs in again, cold.

Thanks for the input guys. I just want to do the "pull over to the side of the track" and check the plugs thing. I also don't want to destroy the threads on my heads. Just trying to get the MFI dialed in.

Tazzieman, I've been doing exactly what you said above and will continue to do so I guess. Unlike the anti-seize debate (which isn't going to do much harm either way), I'll play it safe.

AVDCAV 06-28-2013 09:08 AM

Why ? Burning your hand is not fun "
The drag guys do it but on ford or chevy its way easier .

There not gonna change while it cools

tobluforu 06-28-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kugelfischer (Post 7518661)
Thanks for the input guys. I just want to do the "pull over to the side of the track" and check the plugs thing. I also don't want to destroy the threads on my heads. Just trying to get the MFI dialed in.

Tazzieman, I've been doing exactly what you said above and will continue to do so I guess. Unlike the anti-seize debate (which isn't going to do much harm either way), I'll play it safe.

Get a wide band, even though the old school worked for me for 17 years. When I finally got one I was pretty amazed how close I was just reading the plugs, etc. I pulled them hot for years, well actually I only would pull two at a time. Drive the piss out of it, prepare for pulling over, get on it, push clutch in, kill motor, coast to side, pull plug, swear after you have burned your hands, and do it all over until right. Or install wideband, check gauge, pull out trusty long screw driver, adjust, drive, adjust, done-No burned hands.

HarryD 06-28-2013 04:09 PM

It is my understanding that since the demise of leaded fuel and the crazy additives in fuels today, reading plugs does not tell you much.

rusnak 06-28-2013 04:36 PM

Those fuchers get really hot, and it's not like it's easy to get them threaded back in when cold either.

+1 on a wideband tester sensor. I welded in a second bung in my bypass pipe. That's how I check AFR.

Why risk cross-threading and/or burning your arm/hand/fingers/forehead/ eyeballs on that hot motor.

kugelfischer 06-28-2013 05:04 PM

I broke down and bought a used wide-band on eBay today. Figured it wasn't worth screwing up the heads. Also, the fine art of plug reading is pretty much over given today's gas.

Thanks for the input.

Tippy 06-28-2013 05:11 PM

I would not pull or install plugs in a hot engine nor put anti-seize on a plated thread spark plug.


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