![]() |
|
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Penticton, BC Canada
Posts: 3
|
'83 911SC low or weak engine power
Hi folks, newbie here. I have been reading this forum for a month now, getting lots of helpful tips from all of you while I prepare my new (to me) Porsche for the road. Bought it in Phoenix in May, trailered it home to Penticton, BC, Canada.
I have sorted out many of the engine running issues, new plugs and wires (with steel braids), new cap, new intake gaskets, rebuilt (sealed) air box, new O2 relay, valves adjusted, new synthetic oil and filter, and valve cover gaskets. My problem is power, or lack of. It is like I am launching the car in 2nd gear, and if I am on a bit of an uphill, it's all I can do to get her rolling. I can't say this is a new problem, or getting worse because I just haven't had that much road time since getting the car licensed. But if I had to swear on it, the issue is worse now then when I first put on the road last week. However, once launched and rolling sufficiently, she seems to have great power. BTW, is it typical to travel at 50 mph turning 3000 on the tach in first gear? And yes, I checked that I am in first, not third, gear. I have not changed the coil, or the CDI box. Been reading about testing these, but not sure if weak spark is the (only) possible cause. You suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Glenn |
||
![]() |
|
Reiver
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 57,378
|
Is your clutch slipping? Is the clutch/basket/throw out in good order? Is the clutch properly adjusted for full engagement (clutch cable)?
I'd also do a search on oils for flat tappet air cooled 911's if you are using a full synthetic....what type? |
||
![]() |
|
Fleabit peanut monkey
|
Quote:
Let me find you a graph. I think you may be in third. Custom Gearbox Recommendations
__________________
1981 911SC Targa Last edited by Bob Kontak; 07-09-2013 at 11:23 AM.. |
||
![]() |
|
Straight shooter
|
Shifter out of alignment perhaps... that's not 1st gear. 50mph in 1st would probably be around 11,000 rpm as a rough estimation.
__________________
“Of the value traps, the most widespread and pernicious is value rigidity. This is an inability to revalue what one sees because of commitment to previous values. In motorcycle maintenance, you MUST rediscover what you do as you go. Rigid values makes this impossible.” ― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values |
||
![]() |
|
1980SCMan
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 398
|
I've experienced this. Bob is right. The car is in third gear. For me, it was a mis-alignment of the coupling in the tunnel under the inspection hatch in the back. Simple fix - just loosen and roll it and try again.
|
||
![]() |
|
Fleabit peanut monkey
|
In the link I posted, go to Bill Verburg's post number six. First graph "stock" 915 and put a straight edge on the third gear line. Walk it down to 3,000 RPM's and you are at 50MPH.
Yes - loosen and roll to the left if I am thinking straight. There are procedure instructions for fine tuning. Find them and execute. Here is some data to chew on. I bet you are in good shape after this. Have a friend help you. http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/911_shifting_improvements/911_shifting_improvements.htm
__________________
1981 911SC Targa Last edited by Bob Kontak; 07-09-2013 at 11:52 AM.. |
||
![]() |
|
![]() |
Registered
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 2,947
|
he is definitely in the wrong gear .. the good news is it is a very simple fix to reallign the gear shifter if that is all it is ..
__________________
1976 Yamaha XS360 ( Beats Walkin') 1978 911 SC Targa ( Yamaha Support Vehicle ) 2006 Audi A4 2.0T (Porsche Support Vehicle ) 2014 Audi A4 2.0T Technik (Audi Support Vehicle) |
||
![]() |
|
Fleabit peanut monkey
|
Nah - around 7,000 (based on the Verberg graph) but still the same order of magnitude - a whole lotta RPMs to do 50mph
__________________
1981 911SC Targa |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,964
|
So does the car only seem to have 3 gears plus reverse?
|
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 1,493
|
there's no way the sc can hit 50mph in first gear. maybe half that.
__________________
1982 911SC, Mocal oil cooler, Bilsteins, Carrera tensioners, backdated heat, factory short shift, Seine gate shift, turbo tie rods, pop off. 2005 Mercedes-Benz C230 kompressor sport 6-speed (daily driver) |
||
![]() |
|
Fleabit peanut monkey
|
This is the real question.
Quote:
Don't make me prove it cause I got some friends. namely Ordell Robbie, that will take you for a short ride in the trunk of his car. Beaumont Livingston ring a bell? ![]()
__________________
1981 911SC Targa |
||
![]() |
|
Fleabit peanut monkey
|
Quote:
![]()
__________________
1981 911SC Targa |
||
![]() |
|
Retired Member
|
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dons-Werkshop/318896078223764
you might want to chat with Don if you need help. Great person.
__________________
1982 911 SC Targa - Rosie....my Mistress. Rosewood Metallic on Dark Brown and Black. Long distance road warrior and canyon carver. A few mods - a little interior, some brakes, most suspension and all of the engine. |
||
![]() |
|
Registered User
|
I bet your rear shift coupler has bad bushings and there breaking!
|
||
![]() |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Penticton, BC Canada
Posts: 3
|
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Clutch is good, cable adjusted correctly, but maybe linkage is out. I did have the engine out and for that I separated the coupling under the access in the back seats. Was sure I had it back together correctly, but ??? The weird thing is that when I shift from 1st to 2nd the engine responds as expected - rpms drop, throttle has more room for acceleration. Also, because I wondered about this issue, I moved the shifter from 1st to 3rd to 5th to satisfy myself that there were at least the three detents. I will read and reread the instructions for correct alignment, then attempt to get it right. It'll be great if this is the problem.
|
||
![]() |
|
Reiver
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 57,378
|
Glenn911....so can you just shift in 3 gears (3-4-5th)....that'll answer the present suggested solution?
If you can only get 3 gears an easy fix....if you can use 5 gears you have another issue. |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
|
50 MPH in 3rd gear on mine is in the 3000 RPM neighborhood.
Check your shift coupler bushings.
__________________
Pete 79 911SC RoW "Tornadoes come out of frikkin nowhere. One minute everything is all sunshine and puppies the next thing you know you've got flying cows".- Stomachmonkey |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
|
Give me a call ,I can walk you though it
|
||
![]() |
|
![]() |
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 6
|
it was a mis-alignment of the coupling in the tunnel under the inspection hatch in the back
![]() Last edited by arielucrz; 07-09-2013 at 08:07 PM.. |
||
![]() |
|
Registered User
|
Did you take it out and have a look?
Don't just just it with out looking it. If you'er bushing is going out this is what it's going to do! |
||
![]() |
|