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Bob Kontak 07-12-2013 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 911SauCy (Post 7544053)
I was wondering if my newly added block-off plate with stock exchangers could have added to my heat situation as well.

Won't block off plates force additional CFM of air over the oil cooler fins?

uwanna 07-12-2013 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 7544184)
Soooo, I am not really sure if you can or cannot put it in backwards. One post from one dude does not lock down that it can't be done.

The offset mounting holes only allow the Tstat to be installed one way, the correct way!

schumicat 07-12-2013 08:22 AM

yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 7544195)
Won't block off plates force additional CFM of air over the oil cooler fins?


dtw 07-12-2013 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uwanna (Post 7544277)
The offset mounting holes only allow the Tstat to be installed one way, the correct way!

Correct. I have intentionally tried to mount the thermostat backwards, can't be done (at least not without significant effort).

911SauCy 07-12-2013 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schumicat (Post 7544335)
yes.

My sentiments exactly...

Dogbreath 07-12-2013 10:37 AM

Update-

This morning I replaced the solid oil pressure relief valve piston with an older style piston with the holes.

I started the car and it took significantly longer for the temperature to rise. I also noted that my oil pressure seemed higher.

I took the car for a drive of about 10 minutes and the temperature rose to just below 210. I drove the car for another 5 minutes or so and it went to just above 210 and stayed there.

Since the car appeared to be running cooler and seemed stable, I decided to take it to my independent Porsche shop and have them look it over and test the Air Fuel Mixture, check the exhaust emissions and maybe do a compression test. I also asked them to dig a little deeper into why the car appears to be running hot.

I drove the car about 40 miles and the temperature rose only to about 230 before it stabilized and stayed there for the remainder of the trip.

The car seems to run fine and never skipped a beat the whole ride. When I got to the shop I started to think that maybe the gauge is somehow off. There really was no evidence of the car running hot other than the gauge.

I will provide an update once the mechanic has spent some time looking the car over.

Thanks again for all of the great feedback and advice.

manbridge 74 07-12-2013 10:41 AM

So.... might your location be mentioned? I promise not to tell Obama.

quattrorunner 07-12-2013 10:46 AM

Sounds like a huge change. I'm glad to hear and I'll keep that in my mental notes for when I build or buy an older engine again just in case.
Cool

Lapkritis 07-12-2013 12:15 PM

210 is pretty normal. 230 on a hot day maybe... those are acceptable especially without a front cooler. I would consider the case closed but you may find slight improvement with the services you've requested.

schumicat 07-12-2013 12:39 PM

good deal. i suggested early in the thread confirming oil temp in tank with a meat thermometer or mechanical oil temp gauge. that will tell you if gauge is off.

Bob Kontak 07-12-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schumicat (Post 7544852)
good deal. i suggested early in the thread confirming oil temp in tank with a meat thermometer or mechanical oil temp gauge. that will tell you if gauge is off.

+1

Good job.

mca 07-12-2013 07:40 PM

Regarding block off plates ... you'll get more air across the top. But the bottom acts as a heat sink with no air moving through exchangers. Also, the exhaust side of the heads are naturally hotter anyhow. So no air flow through exchangers will compound this affect.

kach22i 07-15-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by quattrorunner (Post 7540885)
If you have made sure the sump tube isn't blocked with the drain plug, and the oil cooler is clean and clear for flow of air over the fins, then it must be something internal. Like debris in the oil line inside somewhere?
I don't know.

Maybe you nailed it early on.

Is it a Fram oil filter by any chance?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/733760-oil-filters-interchange.html#post7272986
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrismorse (Post 7273374)
some time ago, i serviced my car, looking forward to getting it on the track again. I installed a fram filter, (received from PO and put in redline 20-50)

With the car warmed up, things were going well. temps within reason, then i noticed 20-25 psi oil pressure at 5k rpm. so i came in and let the car cool off. Went back out but the pressure was not normal, still low.

Nursed the car home, did all of the usual checks, (pressure relief disassemble & clean, mechanical gauge confirmed low oil pressure, so i changed oil and filter and pressure was restored.

I decided to have a look at the oil filter - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1360855897.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1360855938.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1360855976.jpg

chris



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