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eddiefisher 09-07-2013 05:00 PM

Diffrence in 911 S T and E models
 
Could some one be so kind and explain to me the difference between the 911S, 911T and 911E models, does it have to do with the engine size? just curious to know.

Thanks for any input:)

Jack Stands 09-07-2013 05:07 PM

S, E, and T
 
They were different performance/trim levels in the 911 line up till 1973, then the E and T were dropped.
T = Touring (base model)
E = Einspritzung (fuel injected, next model up in the line)
S = Sport (top model, highest horsepower)

The other model that came into use was the 911 Carrera, a model above the S.

boxster03 09-07-2013 05:08 PM

$50k $100k $150k

kugelfischer 09-07-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxster03 (Post 7644381)
$50k $100k $150k

That's about it. ;)

The differences really depend on the model year. As a generality, the engines were all the same displacement between the models, but differed in output. This was achieved by different port sizes, induction systems, pistons etc.
the differences in trim level included vulcanite vs leather steering wheels, Fuchs vs steel wheels, different more detailed gauges came on the E & S, some minor differences in internal trim.
Suspension differences included the addition of sway bars and better struts & shocks on the E & S vs the T.
Finally, the LWB S cars came with aluminum front brake calipers. Earlier T cars had solid rotors while S cars came with vented.

That's a few of the differences. Again, most of the specifics are model year specific.

porwolf 09-07-2013 09:20 PM

The early , E, and S models, until the CIS system, had mechanical fuel injection (MFI) pumps. Those were like little 6-cylinder engines driven by a timing belt from the main engine shaft, as I understand it. Those 6 cylinders squirted high pressure fuel into the cylinders, kind of. The T-models were carburated engines, except for the US 1972 T model, which also had a MFI pump. Ask how I know.

kugelfischer 09-07-2013 09:45 PM

The MFI pump is driven by a cam.
'73 US market Ts were also MFI until the 73.5 MY when a change was made to CIS injection.
ROW 2.4 Ts were still carbureted and called T-V

Allen_70S 09-08-2013 12:56 AM

Do a search for summjary. Yes, I intentionally misspelled it in the title so that it would be easy to find. Its a detailed comparison between T,E,S in 1970 vs. 1971. It was created with a lot of input from forum members and was last updated earlier this year. Some examples – did you know that the door key slots are oriented horizontal for '70 Vs. vertical for '71. The E and S for these years had an aluminum engine lid and rear center bumper panel, whereas they were steel on the T.
You might also find it interesting to look at the Hagerty Insurance valuation data for these cars. If the data is to be believed, just within the last year the S's have gone (further) through the roof.


Alhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1378630494.jpg

kugelfischer 09-08-2013 07:03 AM

Beautiful car Allen.
I believe that the Al decklids were standard only on the S, but could be optioned on the other models. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what the reference books say.

Also, more info for the original question. The hard and fast differences between the models existed primarily with the engine. All other S options could be special ordered on a T or E. One could have a T built that was spec'd as an S (minus the engine).

boxster03 09-08-2013 08:25 AM

That targa is sweet and no better place in the world to drive year round than SD

Allen_70S 09-08-2013 10:15 AM

Kugelfischer: Thanks for your feedback. As discussed in summjary, there are many discrepancies in the published literature as to what was standard equipment Vs. optional equipment. While the “wheels” category shows the most discrepancies, the aluminum engine lid/rear license panel falls into the questionable category. Johnson indicates steel for the lid and bumper on the 70/71 E, whereas Morgan and Mellor state these to both be aluminum on the 70/71 E. I just made a judgment call to go with the majority information to present in summjary.

Al


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