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Which Porsche parts have large markups (and which parts are not)

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Big concern is the condition of the crank. If it's nicked I'll need a new one. So I look at our hosts catalog... and laugh hysterically.

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$8,000.

A brand new, Subaru STI forged crank from Subaru is $400.

I can't help but think I could have a machine shop make a crank out of billet from scratch for less. I see on eBay there are two cranks used for $2,600. Patrick Motorsport has them listed as $2,200 used.
This quote from another thread made me wonder what the general parts buying landscape is like.

To spot check a random part, I noticed a clutch kit for a 911 is about $600. For a regular car, it's about $100.

Any low volume production will cost more, so it just goes with the territory.

But, what are some parts that have crazy prices which make you lament the 911 markup?
What parts are reasonably priced and had you pleasantly surprised?

Please no trolling and name calling. There is no need for replies like "Well, you can't afford it...Go drive a Honda"
I just think its an interesting discussion where some parts are very expensive, while others are very cheap.
If you don't like this topic b/c you are offended, please just click on one of the dozens of other threads. It's just that simple!


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Your premise is flawed.

It isn't porsche markup, as much as it is a combination of parts with a longer duty cycle and low production volume

I'd begin by assessing how long a set of honda civic brake rotors etc will last at the track compared to stock 911 brake parts

My old mustang GT rotors lasted exactly one hard stop before they warped out. Not my 911

As for cranks, as my track car engine builder says, these engines will last 40 years the way we drive them

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It boils down to "economy of scale" A front brake rotor for an '85 VW Golf retails for about 55 bucks, costs about 35 wholesale. Rotors for a 911 of a similar vintage, which are pretty similar, are 55/160. There are probably a hundred tomes as many VWs using that $55 rotor than there are 911s using the $160 one. Overall production costs are spread over a far larger number of potential sales.

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How about new from Porsche Targa tops. $20,000+. Now thats a markup. From Porsche too.
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I find the small stuff is crazy stupid expensive... like the metal that hooks up to the interior door handle or the metal standoff that holds the spring on the window regulator... the small low volume pieces are just priced ridiculous.
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I can't believe you guys are still taking the bait from PML.
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I dare you to try to make a crank shaft of 930 quality from scratch.



Better yet, get a quote to have one designed and fabricated in a quantity of one. Report back with your findings.
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I can't believe you guys are still taking the bait from PML.
No joke, I think he had the award for troll of the year sewn up in February...
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How about new from Porsche Targa tops. $20,000+. Now thats a markup. From Porsche too.
You'd have to charge that if you sold one every 3 years :-)
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Well, at least you can order parts. I had a '70 dodge challenger and couldn't get parts in 1977.

Just scanned corvette 'factory' parts, only go back to 1984 and most parts are NLA.

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I'm starting to wonder if PML isn't another MM shill. It's boring already.
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It happens in the Alfa world as well. The prices in America are crazy and way overpriced. I now buy 65% of my parts in Europe, because the American vendors say this part is NLA! Well gezz I can get them across the pond. These parts not only cost less with shipping they are quality parts. Well they like my Dead Presidents just as much as the boys over here.

Today I had to get parts for my Montreal, and thanks to my Buddy Josef I was able to order them. The site was in German. They had what I needed, one stop shop but a little pricey $440.00. Dam the gas filter was $54.00. It's a Montreal you own a car like this you got to dish out the Money to fix it correctly.

As far as clutch kits!! Had to get one for a 75 Fetta, so I shop around as you would, I found the brand I wanted and then seached for the best price. Now for the same clutch kit it ranged from $150.00 to $325.00, this is the same P/N, so it's not the part it's who you buy if from!!
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How about new from Porsche Targa tops. $20,000+. Now thats a markup. From Porsche too.
Wow, it goes to show how a little knowledge goes such a long way.
You can get the Targa privately refurbished for something like $2000, right?

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Today I had to get parts for my Montreal, and thanks to my Buddy Josef I was able to order them. The site was in German. They had what I needed, one stop shop but a little pricey $440.00. Dam the gas filter was $54.00. It's a Montreal you own a car like this you got to dish out the Money to fix it correctly.

As far as clutch kits!! Had to get one for a 75 Fetta, so I shop around as you would, I found the brand I wanted and then seached for the best price. Now for the same clutch kit it ranged from $150.00 to $325.00, this is the same P/N, so it's not the part it's who you buy if from!!
Who do you buy parts from?
Do you also buy your Porsche parts from EU ?
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Wow, it goes to show how a little knowledge goes such a long way.
You can get the Targa privately refurbished for something like $2000, right
A little knowledge?

How about the 84 SCRS fuel injection pump that has been on sale for seven or more years.

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These are one-off odd ball items. Including the crank.

You can get the Targa top COMPLETELY rebuilt for under $1k.

Spend some time searching and "Share the fantasy"

Aside from the odd ball parts (e.g., WUR) early 911's are no more expensive than a Nissan 300ZX.

This one is a White Leghorn. How many times you gonna make me post a chicken till' you buy one? Eh, Pleco?

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Sorry I don't own a Porsche. I own 6 Alfa Romeos. Got interested in this site because I took on the task of repairing Bosch 3 Pin Cdi boxes which are shared in the 70's 911's and the Alfa Montreal. I fixed a bunch of them.

It took me years to find the vendors I deal with in Europe. Think of this how many Porsches were sold in America vs, Europe? So aftermarket parts would probably more available in Europe since our brands are made there. I found a few vendors that had the parts I needed as if I walked into a PepBoys or Autozone.

I am also tired of these over priced Merican Vendors. They act as if they are doing you a favor! Whip out the PLASTIC, cause your a paying. I just did Searches and found vendors that have what I want. At this point especially for unique parts I just go to Europe and get what I need. Don't even bother to shop in the US

Here one! My 79 Alfetta rear exhaust piece exploded had to replace it, no choice. I called every Merican Alfa Vendor, and they all told me I had to go to a custom shop to get a piece made, another NLA PART!. Found a site in England HighwoodAlfa, shipped me the exact part I needed and took me 20 minutes to install, bolted right in. Cost me far less if I went to a custom shop by far!

My advise is search the planet. The parts only take an average of 2 days longer to ship, and I tell you the quality is much better, no Asian Stuff!

Does that pump run off a cog belt from the crank, like a Spica System in Alfas?

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Bob, what is the deal with that $20k MFI thing?
What years need that part?
You can get a complete running 911 for that price!
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Bob, what is the deal with that $20k MFI thing?
What years need that part?
You can get a complete running 911 for that price!
You should take your own advice and finally get one. The longer you wait the more expensive they get.
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Bob, what is the deal with that $20k MFI thing?
What years need that part?
You can get a complete running 911 for that price!
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