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Mikey83835 09-29-2013 01:02 PM

Head Stud problems in a 964 3.6?
 
I am on the verge of buying a 92 3.6 motor for my lightweight outlaw-type '74 Targa, motor has all the rebuild receipts from 2005 and seems to have logged 14k miles since then, had 128k at rebuild,

All the right stuff including the new style cvlinders/pistons, but the head studs were not replaced, this seems to be a huge concern for the 3.0 motors, and the 3.2 motors to a lesser extent, they are not usually replaced at rebuild on a 3.6?

Motor is out of car so PPI might be difficult, but leakdown numbers look good,

Opinions?

Mikey83835 09-30-2013 08:34 PM

No opinions?

safe 10-01-2013 03:48 AM

Usually the studs are OK, those engines (3.6s) I have come across has had all steel studs, not the dilavar crap.
On the other hand I have fitted Supertec studs to a 993 3.6 and a 964 3.6 because there was envidence of leakage and movement between the cylinder and heads.

Dan J 10-01-2013 03:53 AM

A 92 964 will have dilavar studs top and bottom. They will occasionally break
though not with the frequency of 3.0-3.2 motors. Do a leakdown test if you're concerned

porterdog 10-01-2013 07:11 AM

Discovered one bad one on my car when I first got it (~112k). Running one short, just crossed 140k.

umgang 10-01-2013 07:41 AM

They do break.
Problem is corrosion of studs themselves- internally, that snaps the ends off with bolts intact.
I have a 1991 964, 186,000 miles and just found three stud ends with bolts attached in the valve covers when preparing to do a valve adjustment.

safe 10-01-2013 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by umgang (Post 7683020)
They do break.
Problem is corrosion of studs themselves- internally, that snaps the ends off with bolts intact.
I have a 1991 964, 186,000 miles and just found three stud ends with bolts attached in the valve covers when preparing to do a valve adjustment.

Dilavar?

Strange, possible that there is a difference between US and ROW cars on this. I have checked 4 964 engines and 1 993, they all had just steel studs.

Dan J 10-01-2013 10:22 AM

You must have jinxed me 2 customer cars today with broken studs 1 intake 1 exh
993 were steel

umgang 10-02-2013 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by safe (Post 7683059)
Dilavar?

Strange, possible that there is a difference between US and ROW cars on this. I have checked 4 964 engines and 1 993, they all had just steel studs.

Yes, Dilavar. The problem is not like the old days where they pull out of the case.
The problem here is simply age and corrosion. They corrode and snap, in my case with the head stud bolts still in place.


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