![]() |
|
|
|
Registered
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Woodstock, GA
Posts: 926
|
special tools for SSI install?
Hello,
I'm fixin' to do the ssi swap on an 82 SC. I've heard about a special tool I need (I got the SSI's used) to reach some of the studs. Do I need any special tool to get the oil lines off? So, what unique tools will I need? Got the PB blaster, a torch, a nut cutter dremel, and basic socket set/crescent/box end wrenches, etc. Thanks Scott |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
|
The SSIs come with a long bent wrench which reaches up to the nuts. I wasn't able to get them off with it, so you will probably be fine without it.
![]()
__________________
John Original owner '81 911SC blackmetallic coupe. Terbatrol, SSI, M+K Gen 4, SC+ cams, A/C delete, console delete, heater backdate, 7 & 8 x 16 Fuchs with polished rims, Turbo tie rods, tensioner update, Rennline engine mount bar, Mainely Custom sump plate, new top-end, corner balance. |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
|
Scott,
You can borrow mine if you need it. Dana |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 2,947
|
you will probably need that long hex bit to go through the hole in the exchangers to get to the barrel nuts. dont remember the size tho
__________________
1976 Yamaha XS360 ( Beats Walkin') 1978 911 SC Targa ( Yamaha Support Vehicle ) 2006 Audi A4 2.0T (Porsche Support Vehicle ) 2014 Audi A4 2.0T Technik (Audi Support Vehicle) |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
|
not trying to scare you but be sure you know of / can find a good mobile "stud / bolt removal " contact ... just in case
__________________
Brian Enjoy Life ... Eat out more often ! |
||
![]() |
|
Insert Tag Line HERE.....
|
Plan on breaking at least 6 studs, that way when you only break 2, you'll be happy..
![]() |
||
![]() |
|
![]() |
83 911 Production Cab #10
|
BTDT... The tool is only good during the installation at best.
__________________
Who Will Live... Will See ![]() ![]() ![]() 83 911 Production Cab #10, Slightly Modified: Unslanted, 3.2, PMO EFI, TECgt, CE 911 CAM Sync / Pulley / Wires, SSI, Dansk Sport 2/2, 17" Euromeister, CKO GT3 Seats, Going SOK Super Charger |
||
![]() |
|
Been here a while
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: East coast, west coast, typ. 35,000 ft
Posts: 2,439
|
Flame wrench.
__________________
looking for 1972 911t motor XR584, S/N 6121622 |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
|
SSI installation
When I changed the exhausts on my '80 SC, I used a sawzall to cut off the old heat exchangers. That way, I was able to have direct access to the very rusted nuts holding the flanges to the heads. Even with good access, I still managed to break two exhaust studs during the removal process. I made a drilling tool to use when removing the broken studs, but have since discovered that it would have been much easier to simply heat the inside of the exhaust port with a torch to melt the thread locker and then twist out the remains of the studs. As long as the broken stud is above the head surface and can be grasped with a twisting tool, the torch method will work.
When reinstalling the new SSI heat exchangers, use a floor jack to hold the exhaust in place until you get a couple of nuts started. To make it easier, I glued the washers to the nuts with a dab of contact cement. This is where the special tool comes in handy. You will need it to tighten the hex nuts. Or, you can go buy a distributor tool which looks very much like the SSI tool, bend it just a bit and do the same job. If you get a distributor wrench for SAE nuts (1/2") you will probably need to file out the hex in the wrench so that it fits the nuts. The first time I did this job, it took me 2-3 days, but now I could probably do the job in 2-3 hours! Good luck with your project! Fred Cook
__________________
FEC3 1980 911SC coupe "Zeus" 3.3SS god of thunder and lightning |
||
![]() |
|
Been here a while
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: East coast, west coast, typ. 35,000 ft
Posts: 2,439
|
I've cut down box-end wrenches, but I've also had very good luck with good universal joint sockets, I have some snap-on ones that work, both 12 and 13mm.
my best success has been to soak the rusty nuts, some say ATF mixed 50-50 with acetone is the best penetrant....I used Kroil....soak them for days or weeks before you are ready. I've heated the nuts with a mapp gas torch, until they are as red as they will get, and I didn't break any.....the previous time, where I was less patient and less persistent about pre-soaking, I broke 4 studs, but that motor wasn't as nice as my more recent project.....some say to use a dremel to cut off the nuts. anything is better than breaking studs.
__________________
looking for 1972 911t motor XR584, S/N 6121622 |
||
![]() |
|
Speed Dog's Chauffeur
|
Crow's Feet Wrenches/Sockets
You may want to look at the old school Crow's Feet Metric sockets/wrenches to see if they are long enough in reach to access the nuts. Used to use them on MB valve adjustments & valve jobs. Horizontal access distance is a difficult thing sometimes. Best of luck.
![]() |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Woodstock, GA
Posts: 926
|
Alrighty,thanks for all the inputs. I am starting the "soak and sit" effort now. Then, some 'love taps", then more soaking, then maybe some heat...THEN I'll try taking them off.
Don't have a close by wrench for the twisted off stud...yikes. Scott |
||
![]() |
|
abides.
|
The best tool I've found so far for SSI installation is a 12mm(?) flex-head gear wrench.
![]() Pelican Parts.com - 12mm Flex Head Combination Wrench
__________________
Graham 1984 Carrera Targa |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Woodstock, GA
Posts: 926
|
Couple this with the fact that I can recognize a screw driver 8 out of 10 times...should be fun. Any Atlanta area guys want to have an SSI swap party, beer and a showing of "Le Mans' on my 36 inch tube TV to follow???
Cheers Scott |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: So. Calif.
Posts: 19,910
|
After successfully removing old heat exchangers, installing new versions is a piece of cake.
See archives on removal strategies. Removing rusted/corroded nuts w/o heat or breakage s usually a challenge. With heat, easier. In all cases, apply a rust penetrant (Kroil or equivalent). Sherwood |
||
![]() |
|