replacement brake lines (hard)

[Harpo]

Has anyone used the Pelican pre bent galvanized steel brake lines?

Thanks

David

[Trackrash]

This is a timely thread as I am planning to replace all my brake lines this winter.

Interesting, to me, is the fact that Pelican hides their brake line kits in their catalog. They didn't show up when I searched today or a few weeks ago. I just happened to come across them while poking around.

FWIW. Scroll down half the page. https://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/SuperCat/911E/POR_911E_BRKHYD_pg5.htm

I would like to use the new copper alloy lines. Cupronickel, which is an alloy of copper and nickel. I have heard them called by some other brand name.

However, I don't see that Pelican has the copper lines in their catalog?

[Harpo]

I have heard that the new lines with copper are great for bending but these are all pre bent so that should be irrelevant. I was actually hoping for stainless steel.

David

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Harpo

I have heard that the new lines with copper are great for bending but these are all pre bent so that should be irrelevant. I was actually hoping for stainless steel.

Go with pre-formed Porsche steel ones.

Expensive, but you will probably be in the casket before they need replaced if car is protected from elements.

Ni Cop is sweet if you have a 15 year old pickup truck needing lines to and from the ABS box. Meaning all lines. $50 per 25 foot roll and relatively cheap fittings coupled with a moderate amount of swearing because your flares will not all be perfect (a leaker or two). However, since you don't care about aesthetics, you leave a little extry for a re-do.

On a 911 the aesthetic value is worth the coin. Plus no re-do's.

[Trackrash]

Bob, so are you saying that the Porsche lines won't rust? Or corrode?

The reason I am going to replace my original lines is due to rust.

[Harpo]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Go with pre-formed Porsche steel ones.

Expensive, but you will probably be in the casket before they need replaced if car is protected from elements.

Ni Cop is sweet if you have a 15 year old pickup truck needing lines to and from the ABS box. Meaning all lines. $50 per 25 foot roll and relatively cheap fittings coupled with a moderate amount of swearing because your flares will not all be perfect (a leaker or two). However, since you don't care about aesthetics, you leave a little extry for a re-do.

On a 911 the aesthetic value is worth the coin. Plus no re-do's.

I'm not able to find the OE Porsche lines. Stoddard is the only source I can find

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Trackrash

Bob, so are you saying that the Porsche lines won't rust? Or corrode?

The reason I am going to replace my original lines is due to rust.

I can't say that.

I am saying if sitting in the garage during winter and given they are coated will allow you to die before they pop.

Are your's leaking or just crusty?

I am assuming coated as my 81 metal lines are.

[lvporschepilot]

I've done this a couple times now. The most difficult part is running the long tube through the tunnel and getting a wrench around the steering rack area to tighten the line junction.

[Harpo]

lvporschepilot, where did you get your lines?

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Harpo

lvporschepilot, where did you get your lines?

Does Stoddard offer them?

Call Pelican first for obvious reasons.

[Harpo]

Pelican is selling the Stoddard brand hard lines cheaper than Stoddard is selling them

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Harpo

Pelican is selling the Stoddard brand hard lines cheaper than Stoddard is selling them

Cool.

Did you find clarity on the specific parts needed?

I'll bet the price disparity was not monumental. But I have been wrong before.

Nice thing about Stoddard Parts is they are 45 minutes from me. Original factory owned (in the way back) Willoughyby Stoddard dealership was absorbed by Penske along with at least two other long time Cleveland Porsche dealerships. Bedford and Sunnyside. Maybe Cascade (Akron) as well.

I digress.

[Trackrash]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

I can't say that.

I am saying if sitting in the garage during winter and given they are coated will allow you to die before they pop.

Are your's leaking or just crusty?

I am assuming coated as my 81 metal lines are.

Yea, they are crusty. I have cleaned and sprayed paint on them a couple of times. My thinking is that crusty almost 50 year old brake lines should be replaced.

It just annoys me that stuff on the under side of my car corrodes while sitting in my garage. It would be nice to use something that would stay nice without me polishing it on a regular basis. That is why I am looking at the copper nickel. Stainless would work as well. I have to use Gibbs on all the other plated stuff on my car as it is, so I'm not thinking zinc coated brake lines would be my first choice.

I would like to hear from others that have used the copper or stainless on a 911.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Trackrash

That is why I am looking at the copper nickel.

Bends like a charm but I don't bother making it pretty with the heaps I replace lines on.

I zip tie them to the closest thing I can so to keep them out of harms way.

I don't remember if the flares are inverted or bubble on my 911.

If bubble, chamfer the end of the tube a smidgen with a fine file or stone to allow for better forming with the die.

It can be done (bending) very well with a bit of patience and a few practice runs.

Incremental cost is nothing. Maybe $100 for line (big spool), fittings and flare tool for the whole car. And as usual, a Saturday.

[David]

I used Fedhill brake line - Where to buy brake line, fuel line, brake line flaring tools, brake line nuts and brake line fittings on my 930. They work great and seem very similar to the originals.

[kyle h]

I just did the lines on my 72 T with the Stoddard kit. The worst one for me was the rear line that runs from the tunnel connector to the drivers side. I was dropping my trans cross member anyways but I don’t think you’d be able to replace that line without dropping it down. I cut the lines off and used a 6pt socket on the fittings in place of line wrenches and still had a heck of a time with the ones on the rear of the car.