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76pcar 11-13-2013 07:51 AM

CIS airbox replacement... how long?
 
2 questions.

1. How long to replace a cis airbox

2. Engine in or out of the car. Which is easier and faster.

Bob Kontak 11-13-2013 08:13 AM

Don't pull the engine.

Time for a pro to replace or time for a DIY guy that has never done it before? Pro - guessing up to 4 hours. DIY, budget a full day assuming you have all the parts at your side.

Flat6pac 11-13-2013 12:58 PM

The later the model CIS, the longer it takes.
Bruce

theiceman 11-13-2013 01:38 PM

my 78 took me 90 minutes to drop the engine about 4 inches and remove the CIS , never done it before .. beginning to having it sitting on my bench ..

spend 2 or 3 days completely rebuilding CIS once i had the parts.

about 45 mins to put back in ..about an hour of tweaking and CO adj ..http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1384382228.jpg
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Peter Zimmermann 11-13-2013 04:00 PM

A '76 (based on your user name) has auto cold-start, so my shop, depending on what we knew about the car, used either a partial drop (no oil leaks + clutch history), or engine removal. You'll want throttle bell crank/console bushings, thermostat o-ring, and an oil pressure switch, injector sleeves + o-rings; in addition to all the airbox replacement parts. It's an all day job to do right and clean, even for a "pro." You should know how to check/adjust the sensor plate height, and when the car is back together, be prepared to have a CO% machine available for tuning. After all that, you should probably plan on measuring cold control pressure (gauges required). Big job.

john walker's workshop 11-13-2013 04:02 PM

account for every nut and washer. check down all the ports and turn the engine over by hand before reinstalling to be sure nothing went in. 76 is pretty easy. a 3/8" drive swivel socket is handy for the manifold nuts. a 4-6" drop helps a lot. shop time about 4 hours.

nicfranc 11-13-2013 04:22 PM

Tools for CIS Removal....
 
Swivel Sockets in both 1/4" & 1/2" drive with assorted extensions are key to removing the nuts under the runners.
I also found that a ratcheting articulating box end also was handy.

On my 1980sc the nuts were 12mm.
I am not sure what size they are on your engine.

Watch those nuts and washers while you remove them.
You do not want to lose anything down the open ports.
Have a magnet handy.

I used a tip from another Pelican board member and made up masonite covers for the intakes using the gaskets as templates.


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nicfranc 11-13-2013 04:30 PM

Block off intake ports
 
Masonite block offs for intake ports prevents nuts and washers and debris from
falling in engine.

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