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Question Torsion Bar Dimensions

I'm trying to calculate the spring rates for the different early (Pre G50) 911 T-Bars. Does anyone have any near by from which they could take a couple of measurements for me?

What is the "working length" (excluding the fluting) for a front and a rear T-bar?

The math is pretty straight forward and I'd be happy to post the results after I figure them out.

Thanks!

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I have a spring plate angle calculator on my site - http://vintagebus.com/cgi-bin/spring.cgi - plug in your t-bar size and weight, and whammo, out comes the spring plate angle. Set your unladen spring plate to that angle using a protractor, and you're good to go.

The math credit goes to Will Ferch - I just did the programming and hard-coded the trig tables.

Here's the t-bar data:

mm:lbs
23:100
24:120
24.1:122
25:140
26:165
27:191
28:221
29:254
30:291
31:332
32:377
33:427
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Thanks Tom!

Now how about the front bars????
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Maybe Will has some data on them - I don't.

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Thanks Thom!

Now how about the front bars????
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Duh! I'm sorry Thom!
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Guys:
Sorry for the late response:

Front torsin bars, ....given first in mm diameter..then lbs/in rate

18.8 = 110
21 = 173
22 = 210
23 = 250
24 = 296
25 = 350

Don't know if sizes greater than 23 are even available.

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