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esample 02-07-2014 07:53 AM

Not Just Another Oil Question
 
No one really wants another oil thread, but I'm looking for an answer that I haven't been able to find anywhere else.

My mechanic talked me into using Joe Gibbs oil when I was tracking my car. Before switching to the Gibbs from Brad Penn, I read that an intermediate oil should be used rather than switching directly from Penn to Gibbs. I'm wondering if anyone here knows if I should take that precaution before going back to the B Penn. Please don't suggest I ask that mechanic, as I think he steered me wrong by recommending the Gibbs oil in the first place. Thanks!

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Hard-Deck 02-07-2014 08:01 AM

Joe Gibbs is a great oil. Go to LN Engineering and read up on it. I have never heard that an intermediate oil is needed when switching from any oil to the next...ever.

RWebb 02-07-2014 12:10 PM

change the oil & don't worry

change to a new mechanic or you will worry

Bob Kontak 02-07-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by esample (Post 7897760)
Please don't suggest I ask that mechanic, as I think he steered me wrong by recommending the Gibbs oil in the first place. Thanks!.

Why do you think that?

MichaelN 02-07-2014 02:31 PM

...and by the way, when this (or any other) mechanic gives you dubious or inexplicable instructions don't forget to ask the magic question...why? His answer will further reveal the depth of his ignorance/knowledge. It's a nice check when comparing "experts".

M.D. Holloway 02-07-2014 05:03 PM

Joe Gibbs racing oil is a good blend for sure, as is Brad Penn and a bunch of others. The distence between most of these oils is now pretty short - different story years ago.

Sometimes these mechanics will use folklore and outdated notions to make suggestions. To MichaelIn's point, ask him why he would suggest that...

80-911SC 02-07-2014 06:05 PM

easy question to answer ....

Your mechanic gets the oil he recommended at a discount and makes more profit on it ....

go out and look for tires and you will see that certain brands are cheaper at some and other brands cheaper at others ...

same reason that you can't get a pepsi at Mcd's .... they supply by coke ....

side note on that .. after that debacle during the super bowl I will not be drinking coke products ... that was just shameful ....

SilberUrS6 02-07-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 80-911SC (Post 7898864)
after that debacle during the super bowl I will not be drinking coke products ... that was just shameful ....

Pffft.

Really?

[shakes head]

Ronnie's.930 02-07-2014 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80-911SC (Post 7898864)
side note on that .. after that debacle during the super bowl I will not be drinking coke products ... that was just shameful ....

I wonder if you are referring to the idea that English was supposedly not respected in that commercial. If so, you might want to edit your post in order to show a little respect for the written word (thus avoiding a pot-and-kettle situation).

SilberUrS6 02-07-2014 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 7898973)
I wonder if you are referring to the idea that English was supposedly not respected in that commercial. If so, you might want to edit your post in order to show a little respect for the written word (thus avoiding a pot-and-kettle situation).

LOL, nice shot, bud.

That was a literal-LOL here.

Bob Kontak 02-07-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80-911SC (Post 7898864)
Your mechanic gets the oil he recommended at a discount and makes more profit on it ....

More than likely. But Gibbs is a good oil and deception, especially slight (for margin) , is a long way from illegal.

Also, just went through the tire thing on two cars and my tire retailer likes "Mastercraft" tires.

"Why Mastercraft?" I ask. (aside from, who the eff is Mastecraft?) and he says they get a good discount and pass that onto customers. Well, you know there is a little (lot?) extra margin in it for them.

I just went out and Googled the Coke commercial and then Googled critique. I am not touching this one except to say the Asian gay dude was freakin' hot.

SilberUrS6 02-07-2014 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bob kontak (Post 7899057)
i am not touching this one except to say the asian gay dude was freakin' hot.

nttawwt

Bob Kontak 02-08-2014 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6 (Post 7899066)
nttawwt

Several same sex relationships in my family. Nuc-u-ler and extended family. Does not bother me a bit.

Always offering gender preference conversion services to sister's hot friends but no luck yet. Comeback is routinely, "Jeez, I never heard that offer before".

Best let this one lie as it will get PARF-ed.

RWebb 02-08-2014 12:14 PM

no reason why the shop shouldn't make a little profit on the oil; that is common with parts also, and it's hard enough for those guys to make it as a business anyway

but, yes do ask why - if the answer is dissembling then DIY

SilberUrS6 02-08-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 7899829)
Best let this one lie as it will get PARF-ed.

Troo, dat.

80-911SC 02-08-2014 01:24 PM

no issue with the guys and the kid ..
but the song is an American song ..
written in English ..
Just seemed to me and a few hundred thousand Americans to be disrespectful to be sung in the manner that it was ...

SilberUrS6 02-08-2014 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 80-911SC (Post 7900037)
Just seemed to me and a few hundred thousand Americans to be disrespectful to be sung in the manner that it was ...

Utter nonsense.

Bob Kontak 02-08-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SilberUrS6 (Post 7900052)
Utter nonsense.

Yes and no. If your perspective is reality, then yes it is nonsense. If your view is "old school" US patriot then not so much nonsense.

Realistically the number 80-911SC throws out is in the many tens of millions.

T Roosevelt was quoted as saying this in 1919:

We should insist that if the immigrant who comes here does in good faith become an American and assimilates himself to us he shall be treated on an exact equality with every one else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birth-place or origin.

But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American. If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn't doing his part as an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. . . We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding-house; and we have room for but one soul loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people.


It's a beautiful expression. However, the rub is the highlighted phrase "it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birth-place or origin". It should have been a two way street, let's say for fun, starting in 1919. It wasn't.

FWIW - Teddy used Joe Gibbs.

poorshe911 02-08-2014 02:36 PM

Geeeeejuzzzz man, just run the brad penn. Don't get all tied up in your shorts with people's opinions that probably never owned or cared for one of our beloved P-cars.

SilberUrS6 02-08-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 7900105)
If your perspective is reality, then yes it is nonsense. If your view is "old school" US patriot then not so much nonsense.

I've always been quite fond of reality. And the reality is that the faux outrage exhibited by the professionally outraged is tiresome. The word you are searching for is not "patriot". The word you want is "chauvinist".

I understand that there are plenty of old-school chauvinists that decry anything but the mother tongue, but considering that almost everyone who holds this faux outrage descends from stock that did not originally speak Native American, I will view their outrageous outrage with nothing more than sad irony.

And this is an ad for the most American of products, Coca Cola, ferchrissakes.


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