Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Bird. It's the word...
 
Fishcop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Port Macquarie NSW Australia
Posts: 5,077
Garage
Angry Rebuilt Caliper Now LEAKING!

I've just finished rebuilding my front and rear calipers and adding new flexible brake lines (all parts from Pelican )

My problem now is as I have begun to replace the fluid, there is a leak from the rear left M caliper at the piston. All pistons were carefully cleaned using alcohol and a light buff with scotch-brite and the seal kits were genuine ATE. I also assembled the calipers with a light coating of silicone (brake approved) grease. I did have trouble pushing virtually all the pistons back in to each caliper, but ounce I used two clamps on either side of the piston to adjust lateral pressure, there was no problem. I should note also that there was no pitting or surface problem on any of the pistons.

What could be happening here? I didn't think there could be too much problem with "pinching" the internal seal, but maybe I'm wrong? Any and all ideas greatly accepted!

Thanks

__________________
John Forcier
Current: 68L 2.0 Hotrod - build underway
Old 09-05-2002, 03:03 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Navin Johnson
 
TimT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Wantagh, NY
Posts: 8,786
the seals are kinda square-ish, check the seal that is leaking. hope that the piston didnt grab it and rotate it in is groove.

unfortunately this means removing that piston.. check the seal and look for tears..
__________________
Don't feed the trolls. Don't quote the trolls
http://www.southshoreperformanceny.com
'69 911 GT-5
'75 914 GT-3
and others
Old 09-05-2002, 03:21 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Bird. It's the word...
 
Fishcop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Port Macquarie NSW Australia
Posts: 5,077
Garage
Thanks Tim, I reckon you're telling me what I think I know deep down inside

I hate having to re-do things!!!

Do you think I'll need a new seal?
__________________
John Forcier
Current: 68L 2.0 Hotrod - build underway
Old 09-05-2002, 03:36 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Navin Johnson
 
TimT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Wantagh, NY
Posts: 8,786
if the seal didnt tear it should be just fine. replace it and really try to ease the piston home

to check kinda stretch the seal between your fingers and feel if the are any tears. If you feel a nick or tear check it out...... if its to bad hope you didnt toss the old seals

Im,sharing because BTDT
__________________
Don't feed the trolls. Don't quote the trolls
http://www.southshoreperformanceny.com
'69 911 GT-5
'75 914 GT-3
and others

Last edited by TimT; 09-05-2002 at 03:49 PM..
Old 09-05-2002, 03:44 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Information Junky
 
island911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: an island, upper left coast, USA
Posts: 73,189
FWIW, I put an S-caliper back together with the old original seals, and pited pistons. It was just an experiment, for me, to get an idea of the tolerance of the seal to pits. (I wanted to see how much it would leak) It is still on the car and dry as a bone.
So kind of like sparkplugs, maybe they're happier w/o the goo.
Also, the first thing I did after bleeding the cal, was to jam on the brake pedal. Maybe this helped (?) . . . you did say "Any and all ideas "
__________________
Everyone you meet knows something you don't. - - - and a whole bunch of crap that is wrong.
Disclaimer: the above was 2¢ worth.
More information is available as my professional opinion, which is provided for an exorbitant fee.
Old 09-05-2002, 03:46 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Bird. It's the word...
 
Fishcop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Port Macquarie NSW Australia
Posts: 5,077
Garage
Hope I kept the old seals? Guess when the bin went out ... this morning!

Oh well, thanks guys I guess my weekend won't be as quiet as I thought!
__________________
John Forcier
Current: 68L 2.0 Hotrod - build underway
Old 09-05-2002, 04:54 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: agoura hills, ca 91301
Posts: 2,634
Since you welcome all ideas (or Q's), would the position of the piston make a difference. I rebuilt mine (successfully), and I followed the 'angle' requirements.

BTW, without using 1500 sandpaper, it would have taken me hours to remove the crud built-up!
Old 09-05-2002, 07:33 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Bird. It's the word...
 
Fishcop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Port Macquarie NSW Australia
Posts: 5,077
Garage
Thanks for the ideas everyone. I pulled the caliper and removed the pistons. I had completely sheared both seals forcing the pistons home! I was lucky enough to get to a brake supply place and get two more seals (not genuine...It'll be interesting to make a direct comparison) before the weekend. It was suggested that I lubricate the seals well and then stretch them between my finger to enlarge them before inserting them into their groove, apparently they will slowly contract around the newly inserted piston. Sure enough the pistons slid directly in and no leaks.

Cheers
__________________
John Forcier
Current: 68L 2.0 Hotrod - build underway
Old 09-07-2002, 07:46 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: N. Phoenix AZ USA
Posts: 28,943
John,

Put the seals in some brake fluid (I use a saucer) and let them sit for a while before you put them in the caliper. Then slowly push the pistons in after you have lubed them as well...

Should work if everything is lubed up well...

Joe

__________________
2013 Jag XF, 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins (the workhorse), 1992 Jaguar XJ S-3 V-12 VDP (one of only 100 examples made), 1969 Jaguar XJ (been in the family since new), 1985 911 Targa backdated to 1973 RS specs with a 3.6 shoehorned in the back, 1959 Austin Healey Sprite (former SCCA H-Prod), 1995 BMW R1100RSL, 1971 & '72 BMW R75/5 "Toaster," Ural Tourist w/sidecar, 1949 Aeronca Sedan / QB
Old 09-07-2002, 08:51 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:06 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.