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Uwon 03-06-2014 06:46 PM

Early and Later Center Caps-Need Lesson
 
I am trying to decide whether or not to install center caps on my project build so having answers to the following trivial questions would go a long way........
1. I understand that the early center cap male insert into the rim measures 67mm vs 70mm for the later style. Correct?
2. Will an early style cap fit a later Fuch rim?
3. What is the difference, if any, on the face, logo, outside ring, edging, shaping, etc.?
4. When was the change-over from early to later style?
5. When were colored or painted logos first introduced?
6. Anything else that one should know?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Johan

Uwon 03-08-2014 02:35 AM

Anybody?

pors1968 03-08-2014 03:26 AM

The early cap three clips 67-73 silver clip retainer whith removable hole 74-86 black 74-86 the three clip wont fit on 74-86

wayner 03-08-2014 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Uwon (Post 7948465)
I am trying to decide whether or not to install center caps on my project build ...


Johan, I did not install centre caps on mine because to me this look is in keeping with the theme of my build

Here is a picture for reference since you are also considering that direction.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394293009.jpg

Uwon 03-10-2014 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pors1968 (Post 7950562)
The early cap three clips 67-73 silver clip retainer whith removable hole 74-86 black 74-86 the three clip wont fit on 74-86

Interesting.... only fellow Canadians have responded.
por1968, many thanks for your response. It's now clear that I have to stay with the later caps for my build.
I remember once a Porsche guru commenting to me on a pic that I had posted of an original '73 RS ( on sale for over $600k) to the effect that "those are the wrong caps for the "73 RS". Other than the clip thing that pors1968 pointed out I have not been able to determine whether the face of the cap differs in any way. Hence this thread. So my question that still remains is.... is there a difference between the face of the earlier and later caps?

Uwon 03-10-2014 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner (Post 7950763)
Johan, I did not install centre caps on mine because to me this look is in keeping with the theme of my build

Here is a picture for reference since you are also considering that direction.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394293009.jpg

wayner, that stance and wheel are truly outstanding. Those must be 17's 0r 18's by 13 wide, or more. I agree with you that no centre caps is the right look particularly for your car.
Mine will ultimately be a bit more subtle so I want to be able to possibly switch from all business to a bit more subdued. Also, while I'm working on my gravel rashed wheels (and I mean gravel rashed inside and out) which require substantial restoration and possibly will have to be painted with only a polished lip, I thought that it would be wise to do proper caps as well now, particularly for colour match. If I don't do it now, it will never be done.
Cheers,
Johan

P.S. I just went through your thread on your build. Truly inspiring. Can you comment on the finish of your wheels, please. Satin clear coat directly on alloy???

wayner 03-10-2014 05:25 PM

Thanks for the comments on my build. A lot of collective Pelican wisdom (and hours on line here learning) went into that car.

As for the wheels, I followed Jeremy's lead and had Jim at True Design build those wheels for me.
I sent Jim a set of 16" curb rashed wheels and he put 17" hoops on them so that I could run big fat modern rubber.

The finish that I asked for is a scotchbrite type finish, which I can easily maintain with a Mr. eraser (or more scotch bright pads if I really let them go).
This season I am going to experiment with some clear plastidip on them.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394501148.jpg

Uwon 03-10-2014 06:44 PM

Got a PM from Wayner. put me on to hubcaps.com. Cannot believe the center cap variations, although, unfortunately no real ID unless you already have a part number. Nevertheless, this web site may be valuable to anybody who is looking for a replacement cap or two at a reasonable price with some assurance that its in good refurbished condition. The value of this forum, amazing....
Johan

arrivederci 03-10-2014 07:31 PM

Some details for you with two (bad) pics. This shows 70mm and 67mm caps. As you know, The 3 prongs are 67mm. When looking at the two different 3 prong ones, the 'clean' one came with a set of 15x8s that I bought used. The other was on my 15x6 flat Fuchs from my '72. Finally, the white ones were on a set of 16x7 and 16x9. I am having the 16s redone to rsr style and need to figure out how I want the center caps to look. I don't want the painted, inlayed style on the rsr finish.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/11/upu7yze6.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/11/ne7a3upa.jpg

Uwon 03-11-2014 03:31 AM

arrivederci, Thanks for the pics. First time that I have seen the back side of a early cap. All clear to me now. From the pics I surmise that there really is no difference on the front. The logo and the recessed ring look the same.
May I ask which rsr finish you are contemplating?
Johan

wayner 03-11-2014 05:35 AM

Quote:

Got a PM from Wayner. put me on to hubc...
That wasn't me that sent that

Uwon 03-12-2014 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner (Post 7955676)
That wasn't me that sent that

My apologies. Thanks should have gone to pors1968.
Cheers,
Johan


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