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B Lights

On your car, B all the way.
The round ones aren't bad, they just look like radio buttons or those button's on Checkoff's Star Trek control panel....this might be what people like about them also..
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What I like about the org lenses is that when you look at the car from the side, the front and rear even each other out in that aspect.
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Porsche 911 History
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Worth a mention were 20 911 "R" models built during the '67 model year with stripped interiors (no carpet, for instance), thin-skinned aluminum doors, fiberglass deck lids, taillights swiped from a Fiat, oversize carbs, a magnesium engine case, dual spark plug cylinder heads and much more. With about 210 horsepower on board, these race-ready, lightweight rockets were the start of the 911 racing legend.
I think this is a novel piece of history and worth telling when someone asks about those tractor trailer looking taillights, even if it isn't a real 1967 "R".

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After four prototypes were built in Weissach on existing 911 S chassis, production switched to the Bauer factory where a further 20 examples were constructed in September of 1967. The sales department then halted the project as they did not believe they could sell 40 examples per month of the new competition car.
Prove them wrong, they would have sold at least another 40 examples per month, right?
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"R" rear tail lights looks good on most narrow body 911's.......
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Voted before reading anything, just looking at the pics - B all the way, much cleaner looking IMO.
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R lights, but I am biased.



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Tail Light Looks and Muffler Mayhem -- Stories from the Backside of my '72

So what does the car weigh?

We are a few pounds away from hitting the 1900# mark and your old tails might get us there if you decide to change and let them go, we don't care about looks so much.
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I'm two or three full passengers above the 1900# mark. I'm about stock weight -- the cage, extra cooler, tranny cooler and fire system all add weight, and I've still got a leather interior and even that heavy bumper trim.

It's kind of a car with two conflicting mandates -- it has to be fast, but also not look like it's been stripped down for racing and still be somewhat comfortable on the street.
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I hate the amber color (yeah yeah DOT has some laws about amber for turn signals and for trailers) so I prefer the red and clear lens. Here is a picture for an option B (with no amber) from my car. I even took my amber front turn signals out. I have to bet not many PoPo know the laws regarding the amber lens.

Though if it was me, I would go with a modified option A as BBII has that retro look (Magnus has the option A lens on most of his). Maybe change up option A with something more custom to eliminate the amber color and make them a bit more recessed and molded in and flush as opposed to sort of poking out of the rear of the car.

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I used to prefer the red ones. And based on this picture, I'd say I must have a set lying around somewhere. But I can't find them. And I also have to admit, I've grown to like the Euro lenses -- which, inexplicably, I have. Maybe I traded someone ten years ago?
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This evening my wife took the kids to the swimming pool. I hurried out to the garage.

So here's the factory starting point. Just over 4 pounds per side. Granted, these assemblies will last forever.

But that's 8 pounds!



Here's what I picked up -- an inexpensive set of LED trailer lights:



The box that came from Amazon was surprisingly heavy, but the 'good parts' were nice and light:



I had to shave the top and bottom off of the main assembly so that it would be the right height for the space in back. I did a quick test with that 12v battery. The LEDs are brighter and lighter. And completely waterproof!



Now for the box. On the list of things I wish I'd learned in school, product design is near the top. But I traced the curve of the lens and improvised a box out of leftover aluminum from the sheet I recently used to cover the belly pan of the car.



Transfered to the aluminum, with some tabs that I can rivet:



Cut with some snips and the preliminary weigh-in looks pretty good:



A handy little tool: a little brake you can use in your vise.



I think I'll use aluminum rivets and some adhesive to hold it together, but here's a quick test assembly:



And from the other side:



Hopefully, I'll get a little time tomorrow to finish up this box and test it out. I'll also be interested to see what my 911R assembly weighs, and if I've come close to beating it.

Cost so far: $39.
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ok, Jack, now I'm confused -- where is the 3D printer?
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I prefer B Euro lenses as well, and honestly knew the stock housings were heavy, but not 8 lbs combined, heavy!

I do remember seeing fiberglass housings I think made by DP Motorsports. Have you given that a thought?
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I did a search and here's the DP Motorsports lightweight tail light housings: HERE
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I did a search and here's the DP Motorsports lightweight tail light housings: HERE
@ $300 and change not including shipping, I'd say Jack is WAY ahead here! Nobody see's the back of those housings.

I have to say... the amber lenses do look GAY! Go all red!!!
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Huh?

"Does this dress make me look fat?"

Sorry couldn't resist.....

Car looks great either way Jack great job fabbing the light box, mad skills, if pressed I'd have to go with the stock lenses..... Scott
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Great work Jack. For those that can't / won't go through this kind of effort, Sierra madre also sells a set of plastic replacements. No idea if they are any good...

Euro lenses all the way, btw.
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I have to say... the amber lenses do look GAY! Go all red!!!
...says the guy that painted his calipers yellow...

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Sorry. I don't like the round ones at all.
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Poll reply and Muffler advice

From a cosmetic perspective, I'm glad you went with option B, as it seems more what I'm used to on the 911's, and the round lights just look too small compared to the overall size of the space.

In terms of the M & K muffler, I would expect the solution to be quite loud.

I have their One in/out on an '80 SC with no cat, and it turned out to be almost as loud as the bad muffler with a hole (bursch) that I replaced it with.

Not that I'm complaining, as I love the sound
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