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Toddler Seat in 911

Does anyone have any experience with installing a toddler seat in the back seat of their 911? Any brand/model recommendations? I'd like to be able to take the whole family with me in my soon to be purchased 911.

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In my old 944, I used a booster seat. Trimmed the sides down with a sharp razor knife until it fit just right in the little bucket. Should be similar for a 911.
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Brad H, How old and tall is the young one. I have a 5 year old and a 2 year old and if you look at the last pic on my Pelican page you can see them seated and strapped in the back. (click on my car below) I went to the local AAA office, CHP office and my insurance agent and all said this set up passed the safety laws in CA. for my kids weight and age. If you want more info on this let me know.
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Child seat

My son is almost 2 and is about 3' tall. I'd like to use a full seat, but I haven't found one with a small enough base to fit in the seat. Perhaps I will try trimming one, as Dantilla suggested.

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this may be of interest..

FYI, Century child seats fits in rear of 3.2
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I had a tough time with this and finally cut some heavy duty foam to raise the seat bottom up about 4 " and give me more room and area for the base to sit. I am also about to install a bolt in the back to fasten the back strap to. Seems to work OK so far but haven't finished it.
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Mine has inertial-reel lap belts in the back which cannot be used with car/booster seats. I plan to change them out for manual belts so I can haul the whole family on track days.
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Dan, how did you rig those booster seats in the back?
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Jim,
I will email what I did along with pics if you would like. It was pretty simple really seeing as its not a booster but a Tot-n-Go.

Allen,
I thought the H clip would allow you to use the inertial reels?
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There's been quite a bit of discussion on this. Search the archives for "child seat" and similar.

About two months ago, there was a detailed message showing how to modify a $19 Cosco toddler seat to fit perfectly in the rear seat. This is a shield-type seat.

Porsche also once sold a "Prince" shield-type seat that fit in the rear seat. You see them occasionally on eBay. Do not mistake this for the Britax-made Porsche booster seat that you'll also find on eBay -- I've tried the Britax seats and they don't fit well in the rear.

For older children who can use a booster seat with the stock three-point belts, the Century "Breverra" fits nicely. It has a rounded base that is quite short (front to rear). My 3-year-old son uses that.
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Did a quick search on the net, and there seem to be several different models of Breverra's available (all with different sizes, dimensions, etc). Any chance someone could post a pic of the one they are using so we can see which model works?
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Brad --

I have a 2 year old (3', 27lbs) and another one due in a couple of months. I have a pair of Cosco Alpha Omegas mounted in the back seats of my car. That's right, TWO baby seats in a 911.

I like this particular seat because it's approved for use from 5lbs - 80lbs which means you don't have to buy a new seat every few years. I also like the fact that the seat is FAA approved so you can use it on board aircraft when necessary. And living in Hawaii means air travel is often necessary.

The seat comes with a base that can be removed where necessary and appropriate. In order to fit the seat in the rear of my 911 Targa, I removed the seat's base, the seat backs from the 911, AND replaced my factory seat belts with no-nonsense belts from PAP.

I don't have a photograph of the seats in situ, but I would be willing to attempt to photograph them even though the interior of my car is currently being redone.

Here's a link to a page where the seat I used is described:
http://ask.dealtime.com/dt-app/SE/CatN-Babies_and_Kids/FormN-Car_Seats_&_Accessories/MnfN-Cosco/PrdN-Alpha_Omega/BEFID-61192/MnfID-11420/PrdId-60027/compare-prices.html

Good luck!
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Carlton,
Do you mean that you have installed one of the Cosco seats in the rear-facing configuration for your newborn? Does it fit in the back seat that way?
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Sean --

I currently have both seats mounted in the forward facing direction. However, when my newborn arrives, I will do one of three things: Rotate one of the seats to the rear facing position; Move one of the seats to the passenger seat in the rear facing position; or Leave both Cosco seats in the back and use the "infant carrier" in the front seat, rear facing. It all depends on what time of day, where the sun is, and how long the ride is.

The Cosco seat will fit in the back, rear-facing, on the right hand side of the car WITH the passenger seat far forard. It's by NO means "cool looking" but it works.
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Dan,

Yes, the locking clip can be used with 3-point inertial reel belts, where the two ends of the belt are "locked together" in the middle by the clips. Because one of the ends is attached to a fixed point, it keeps the belt from sliding. By clipping the "movable" end of the belt to the fixed end, it locks the belt and holds the seat in place. With a 2-point inertial belt, there's nothing to lock the moving end. Unfortunately on my '85, it came with the ELR type belts below (this may vary by year model?).

From Graco website:

4.2.1 UNSAFE Vehicle Belt Systems
DO NOT use any of the following systems to secure the infant restraint.
Lap Belts with Emergency Locking Retractor (ELR)
This lap belt stays loose and can move until it locks in a crash or sudden stop.

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I am looking to get a Century Next Step for forward facing toddlers. It has the smallest seat "footprint" of most of the ones out there.

I am struggling with how to get the 3 point seat belt to stay snug as it seems to get loose once I mount it. My seat belt in the rear only gets tight if you pull on it, but allows some freeplay for movement, etc. I think this is fairly normal. I am not going to tether it for obvious reasons of car destruction.

Will the "H" clip mounted by the connector get it tight?
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Hi there,

I have a 20 month old. I have a century seat ($49) which easily fits into the rear of my '85 targa. As far as the belt, I replaced my inertia belt with a regular adjusting belt that I purchased at PEP ($50). The benefit to getting their belt is that it comes with bolts that fit into the bolt holes from the original belt. It literally takes about 10 minutes for the job.

One thing to note that I learned from another Pelican-head, when you replace the part of the belt that has the release button, you may be better off putting that portion on the other side of the hump (making the other side's belt useless). With that, you are able to get the seat more snug. It would be great if I could get a belt similar to what you wear on a plane. Tightening the PEP belt is somewhat of a pain, and that's why it's easier to mount the belt on the other side. I know this sounds confusing, but I'm in a rush. Email me if you have any questions.

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Jbripps,
Perhaps you could mount both buckle straps on opposite sides. Then you would not render the other side useless, it would just mean that both rear seat belts would criss cross each other....just a thought.
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Jon,

You can get the manual adjust belts (like airplane belts) at Pep Boys and other parts stores, about $20.... but unfortunately they look like they're out of a Ford or American car. I put those in the back of my '02 when my first daughter was born two years ago, works great with the car seat.

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Have you seen the one made by Simpson? Black racing style seat with a mini Simpson racing harness? Really cool!
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