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I'm taking the over $20 million on this car. There's just too much money in the world right now. This is nothing for the hedge fund guys. Then we have the Russians.

We're going to see some pretty astounding prices at Montery. We sure saw them at Amelia. This boom isn't over yet.

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Amen!

P.S. I sure dont have the money though.....guess it is wasted on the rich!?

Old 06-24-2014, 01:36 PM
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I gots $374.00 in the bank and $27.38 in cash
Sweet!

I got almost $500 plus about $300 left on overdraft protection. Lots of change in the toolbox here at the shop and the junk drawer at home.

Kids can float me another $500 (short term).

It could happen.

Also 20M? That's thousands right? Milla? So $20,000 US seems more than reasonable for a car of that pedigree.

I know boyt911SC can cough up a grand or two. javadog, at least $500.

Pool buy, I get September. No take-backs.

Seriously, here is a youtube link where they do a topical (as far as info) restoration of the car. Not the Gunnar Racing 917.

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Does anyone know who did the restoration on 917-024?
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Does anyone know who did the restoration on 917-024?
Was this covered off in the Motormeister thread? I think it was post 1174 or something like that... I could be wrong.
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Was this covered off in the Motormeister thread? I think it was post 1174 or something like that... I could be wrong.
Nope, the fan isn't red.......
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Does anyone know who did the restoration on 917-024?
At 55 seconds into the video I posted right above your post, there is a fellow talking about the 917 from Modena Motorsports.

I did some sniffing around and based on this fourm's posts, Modena Engineering in Germany did the restoration over 10 years ago.

Porsche Forum @ CKnet - PORSCHE 917 K Ch.Nr. 917024

Would be nice to know the history of the current motor. From what little bit I read, Sieffert loaned the car for use in the movie and Solar Productions had to borrow a motor from Zuffenhausen and then return it after the production.

Would be sweet if they mated the car with that loaned motor again.

I am thinking hammer price - $23 million US.
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Short memories again on this one!

From what I remember and check me if my memory is getting flawed- but the car was used for testing in 1969 and the engine was either pulled or was blown up. Thus when Porsche picked their works cars from the batch, they sold off the rest to private parties and this one went to Siffert without an engine. Siffert had a Porsche Dealership and it was to be his show piece, but he died! A year prior to his death, the Movie people could rent or got to borrow this car for cheap, due to it not having an engine, so it was painted the Gulf colors and was the car used for alot of the still shots such as the final victory scene. Porsche had lent an engine to them just for show, and the car was used for static scenes or as a backdrop and wasn't the car ran on the track for filming. Then immediately after the Movie filming was done, Porsche took back their engine. Thus the car has no racing history!!! It was painted by the movie people, and even the barn find back in 2001 was staged is what I remember. I think it was in about 2008 that this was all proved out. The car that did the speed shots and such was the 025 car that I think was sold to the Fittipaldi family. Thus it is a real chassis with is a good thing, but considering the history, it should be interesting to see where it is bid to!

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Does anyone know who did the restoration on 917-024?
Uwe Meissner of Modena Motorsport knew of the location of 917-024 for a very long time and after years was able to buy the car. He resold it including the restoration contract to a Swiss client. The restoration was headed by Modena Motorsport, with significant works outsourced to the Technical University Aachen (frame) as well as bodywork to a southern german F1 bodywork specialist.
There are serious flaws/omissions in the press release regarding the extent of the restoration! Will be interesting!!!
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At 55 seconds into the video I posted right above your post, there is a fellow talking about the 917 from Modena Motorsports.

I did some sniffing around and based on this fourm's posts, Modena Engineering in Germany did the restoration over 10 years ago.

Porsche Forum @ CKnet - PORSCHE 917 K Ch.Nr. 917024

Would be nice to know the history of the current motor. From what little bit I read, Sieffert loaned the car for use in the movie and Solar Productions had to borrow a motor from Zuffenhausen and then return it after the production.

Would be sweet if they mated the car with that loaned motor again.

I am thinking hammer price - $23 million US.
The engine was sourced in the US. Some stolen 917 engines were found back and this is one of them.
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Coincidentally, was only just reading this months Octane magazine (#134), which has a 9 page article on this very car. Hmmm, now where did I put that winning lottery ticket?...
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so it was painted the Gulf colors and was the car used for alot of the still shots such as the final victory scene. Porsche had lent an engine to them just for show, and the car was used for static scenes or as a backdrop and wasn't the car ran on the track for filming.
So it's just a prop, in essence.

I hope the new owner knows this.


Surely he will. $10-30 million requires some due diligence.
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Like I said above, it is a real car/chassis!

I already said that though, but for the Movie, it was basically just a prop, if you want to put it that way!
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I already said that though, but for the Movie, it was basically just a prop, if you want to put it that way!
I really, really want to put it that way.

I referenced your fine commentary and commented on it. My summation of the salient point respecting value.

Did I steal something from you?
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I really, really want to put it that way.

I referenced your fine commentary and commented on it. My summation of the salient point respecting value.

Did I steal something from you?
But I can't put those smile things in my comments. Nothing negative was typed. It apparently is a real chassis was all. Maybe if I am hurrying to type something on a break or at lunch, without the smile things, it is hard to make the reply seem all friendly and such. Thus here are some extra ones for past posts!

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So much for that. Gooding must be pissed - that was definitely one of their featured cars.

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not unusual for a car (or artwork etc) to be pulled from an auction if its provenance is questioned or if someone lays a claim to it
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I'm taking the over $20 million on this car. There's just too much money in the world right now. This is nothing for the hedge fund guys. Then we have the Russians.

We're going to see some pretty astounding prices at Montery. We sure saw them at Amelia. This boom isn't over yet.

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I agree. $20mm would have bought it when the car was first listed...that was a long time ago
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not unusual for a car (or artwork etc) to be pulled from an auction if its provenance is questioned or if someone lays a claim to it
see post #28:
more likely the former... honesty prevails :-)
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PS and for future posts----(D
LOL. Just saw this

THAT was good.

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