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bugstrider 08-06-2014 08:30 PM

It's in good condition but new one is inbound.

Nothing pops out with the connector either.

timmy2 08-07-2014 07:16 AM

Unknown type of engine failure
 
Any chance the new dizzy was installed 180 degrees out?

bugstrider 08-08-2014 05:36 PM

Unknown type of engine failure
 
Not too sure on that. At this point I'm discovering that anything is possible. Tracking shows my dizzy at the UPS store for my pick up. Will get it in next week and find out more.

I'm hoping that the new unit will remove at least one wild card on the table. However, I'm quickly finding out that good ol Murphy has a full on Nelson headlock on my happy A$$ 24/7.

On a positive note, not having the 911 around forced me to rebuild the front end on our 95 GMC K1500. It now no longer sounds like the Black Pearl driving down the road.

timmy2 08-08-2014 05:59 PM

Unknown type of engine failure
 
When you go to install the new dizzy, make sure you are on TDC for cylinder 1 and not 4.

Always good to have another vehicle in good shape.:)

bugstrider 08-09-2014 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmy2 (Post 8205067)
When you go to install the new dizzy, make sure you are on TDC for cylinder 1 and not 4.

Always good to have another vehicle in good shape.:)


Yeah, it is but with 275,500 on the odom, I'm dodging the perverbial mechanical bullet on the GMC too

bugstrider 08-09-2014 04:01 PM

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It arrived........ Yippie!
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CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!

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WTF????
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In reviewing my post, I have no idea where this picture came from) I've never owned an android phone...... Too funny

Someone's post mysteriously had a picture of a distributor imported. That's even funnier.

bugstrider 08-19-2014 01:09 PM

Unknown type of engine failure
 
Nothing to report......

The shop has had higher priority cars than mine.....:-(

timmy2 08-19-2014 01:18 PM

Time for a new shop....
It is a 1/2 hour job at most to put in the distributor. Faster if you actually know the engine is on TDC of cylinder 1.

bugstrider 08-19-2014 05:40 PM

I was awondeing, but since I am still learning and they put up with my stupid questions, I just smile and poke around. I might pop in and "assist" on my next series of days off. I curious to see if the unusual r/side engine sounds are still there.

On a side note, a letter showed up at the local office addressed to me from a gentleman that somehow heard I was an enthusiast on older P-cars. He has 3 1974 914's he wants to sell because he is downsizing.

Uncle Enzo 08-19-2014 05:47 PM

There has to be a local Pelican who can help you out. This is really a very easy job.

CountD 08-19-2014 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmy2 (Post 8221371)
Time for a new shop....
It is a 1/2 hour job at most to put in the distributor. Faster if you actually know the engine is on TDC of cylinder 1.

I second this.

bugstrider 08-19-2014 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverc4s (Post 8163187)
If the timing jumped a tooth on a cam, I don't thing waiting 30 minutes would make any difference. Heat related sounds more like a bad ignition coil, or some CIS malady to me.

Do you have a CD Ignition box? Can you hear it humming?


Wow, I totally answered that question wrong. Yes, the CD ignition box hums as it should. Just shows how observant I am/am not. I was thinking along the line of a different power source like one of the aftermarket units. Which I've discovered doesn't exist for this car.

Although the shop helping with this issue said there is a lack of spark. However it is prior to the new distributor being installed.

bugstrider 08-19-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Enzo (Post 8221761)
There has to be a local Pelican who can help you out. This is really a very easy job.


I'm going to check around

bugstrider 10-07-2014 09:02 PM

Unknown type of engine failure
 
In reading several post regarding the 78 SC, it seems there is an unusually high percentage that have developed a mysterious cut-out issue and different speeds and RPMs. Several causes can be attributed to faulty relays, CDI modules, corroded connectors, or fuel pumps. Is this normal for these cars?

I ask because after a distributor replacement, ours too has the cut-out virus. New wire set, CDI and coil swapped out of a good running car seems to make no difference.

What could we be missing????

johnsjmc 10-08-2014 05:47 AM

The US cars used a rev limiter relay to cut the fuel pump power. (behind the dash drivers side ).ROW cars used a rev limiting rotor in the distributor. Being 35 yrs old any electrical relay could be acting up. If you find it and disconnect or bypass it and you fix the cut out problem then remember you have NO rev limiter anymore. Replace it or maybe use the euro(ROW) rev limiter ignition rotor. (I think the 3.0 early turbo also used the rotor)

bugstrider 10-08-2014 06:04 AM

Thanks, the replacement distributor did have the rev limiter rotor you mentioned.


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johnsjmc 10-08-2014 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bugstrider (Post 8296861)
Thanks, the replacement distributor did have the rev limiter rotor you mentioned.


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Then if you have a US spec NOT a ROW euro car then you also have a fuel pump cut off relay designed to limit revs located behind the dash. It could be causing a cut off at a wrong RPM as it is 35 yrs old. Seen it doing it at least once in an 80SC

bugstrider 02-23-2015 12:06 PM

Unknown type of engine failure
 
Hey everyone,

Happy day to report on the great 78SC mystery... After all this time of swapping components, changing wires, distributors, wire harness, etc...

The small item causing all this hesitation/stumble/cut-out turned out to be the result of a failing/failed EGR valve. The last place I would have thought to be the cause..... Kinda found by mistake.

Took it for a short test drive. Pulls strong and was like visiting an old friend.

Cheers


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