if not a SC then what, and why
 

with all the recent smack flying around regarding the merrits of the best 911 ever i got to thinking, now i know some of you may find that hard to believe but i have been. my thought was to pose this question, instead on selling whats bad about another model, like the semi carrera, or when to shift light comes on i HAVE to shift, tell us what makes your model the finest 911. we have heard about another 1/10 or 2/10 or even 6/10 liter, or head studs, weight, or what have you. lets this time try to be positive and note what makes the car we drive the best.

i will start, when i 1st began to get seriuos about the purchase of a 911 i had a budget that i was going to have to stick to. in my research i found alot of the pitfalls of each model and its merits and based my choice on those factors and available funds. i figured that i could get a carrera with 100K+ for my $15 to $20K in not to good of shape, or i could look for an older car with less miles or confirmed rebuild work. when my work had been done i figured an SC was for me. this was before i even aware of the domination plot that im currently involved in, but thats a story for another time. i looked for 6 months, and low and behold the economy took a dump and the DOT.COM collapse worked to my benefit, a guy lost his job, and his 78 SC with 64K original miles was mine for 15.5K. so my choice was influenced by factors none other that to get the best bang for my buck and an SC was it, the world domination was just icing on the cake.

toby

Maybe it's me, but it is tough to read your post with no capital letters.

I've had both the SC and the Carrera and I think that for one looking for a car from '78 to '89, Bruce Anderson's standard advice is applicable: Buy the best example you can afford.

If one has a budget of $15K or less, I think that most likely means get an SC. I'd rather have a really nice $15K SC than a ratty or not so nice $15K Carrera any day.

And, having been involved in the search and purchase of more than a few SCs and Carreras over the past 5 years (mostly helping friends), I can safely say that there are plenty of ratty examples of SCs and Carreras these days.

Which is kinda weird to me - as a little bit of an "old timer" I still view the 84-89 Carrera as a "late model" car. But it really getting to be an old timer now, with the newest example almost 14 model years old, and the '84 almost 19 model years old. And, the cars are starting to show their age, a lot are daily drivers and show it.

I like my current SC a lot, and I liked my '86 Carrera a lot. I found them to be very similar cars - although my early SC does feel a little lighter, the Carrera had better throttle response.

Both are very good values for the money - but a really, really nice SC is probably the best value because the market has them priced pretty low. A doggy SC can get $12K, but its hard to get $16K even for a really mint, really nice SC - which is easily worth $4K more than the $12K dog.

1973 coupe. No sunroof. 3.2 litre, Carerra flares and racing seats. Why? Because it's what I have.

1966 912 coupe. No sunroof, 3.0 liter, narrow IROC body, carbs, MSD, headers and custom exhaust. Why? because that's what I have.....and it's only 2100lbs ;) All kidding aside my favorite thing about my 912/911 is it's simplicity, no power options or other conviences to get in the way, it much reminds me of hopping into a stripped down racecar except with carpet.

Dude, I can't even understand what the hell you are saying.

"now i know some of you may find that hard to believe but i have been. my thought was to pose this question"

Say what? Huh?

"instead on selling whats bad about another model, like the semi carrera, or when to shift light comes on i HAVE to shift, tell us what makes your model the finest 911."

This whole post is completely unintelligable. I know you are trying to be a good guy and make a post that everyone will enjoy, but instead you gave me a headache. Do us all a favor and invest in some grammar books or english classes. Damn.

That's "English".

Hey Panic:

I guess I was trying to be subtle, but you summed up my thoughts exactly. Must be some GOOOOOOD stuff!

what are you guys talking about? i understood every word he said. i don't get it. :p

And also, "unintelligible" (not "unintelligable"), if we are on the subject of spelling and grammer.

Although I suppose there is some innate humor (irony?) in the erroneous spelling of the word "unintelligible" in a post where the poster implores someone else to invest in an English class.

The short answer is buy a longhood.

I understood the writing fine. It was the utter insanity of choosing an SC in the first place that has me stumped. You must have been on some ka-razy $hit way before deciding to write this post..

;);)

Poor Toby.....
Everyones slagging the cat for his poor use of the English language.
Then, the Rust Bucket Brigade chimes in with their usual BS "longhood" crap-o-la.
It's a tough neighborhood, Toby, so try and tough it out.

bla,bla,bla
 

my brother used to complain when i used all caps in email to him .said it was like i was shouting at him. i still use them to him. wankers stop your complaining.

Hey non-SC guys, jealousy will get you nowhere :)

And turning it into a side argument on grammar is not going to win either.

Best of Both Worlds, "77" S 3.2 Carrera

Damm you guys are strickt with the Queens English!!

Rick:D

Who you callin' a queen?

Boy, this thread has disintegrated, eh?

Toby's post is eloquent and accurate. I understood every word. I see some folks are in denial. The Porsche 911 SC absolutely dominates in the all time world wide value-for-your-buck category.

I do expect to hear from the longhoods here. Theirs is a subjective but powerful case. Indubitably.

No problems understanding this post...
 

EE Cummings wrote in lowercase - and I think he won a Pulitzer in poetry, too.

Why are we arguing about this?
 

Why should we argue about which Porsche is better? It's a Porsche for God's sake. For the record, it's grammar. :p

oooohhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jim T
I've had both the SC and the Carrera and I think that for one looking for a car from '78 to '89, Bruce Anderson's standard advice is applicable: Buy the best example you can afford.

If one has a budget of $15K or less, I think that most likely means get an SC. I'd rather have a really nice $15K SC than a ratty or not so nice $15K Carrera any day.

And, having been involved in the search and purchase of more than a few SCs and Carreras over the past 5 years (mostly helping friends), I can safely say that there are plenty of ratty examples of SCs and Carreras these days.

Which is kinda weird to me - as a little bit of an "old timer" I still view the 84-89 Carrera as a "late model" car. But it really getting to be an old timer now, with the newest example almost 14 model years old, and the '84 almost 19 model years old. And, the cars are starting to show their age, a lot are daily drivers and show it.

I like my current SC a lot, and I liked my '86 Carrera a lot. I found them to be very similar cars - although my early SC does feel a little lighter, the Carrera had better throttle response.

Both are very good values for the money - but a really, really nice SC is probably the best value because the market has them priced pretty low. A doggy SC can get $12K, but its hard to get $16K even for a really mint, really nice SC - which is easily worth $4K more than the $12K dog. [/QUOTe

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Last Monday at Garys shop [GD Racing South San Francisco] I saw a '85 Carrera, 'bout 80k miles, dark metallic blue, whale tail for
$12,000.00

Hey Toby, or not toby, like your post and understand most of it, 'n what I don't understand is probably you're thinking faster than you can type, but it don't mattah.
Best 911, rite?
Euh. Ok 911 S, any of the early ones, for their historical purity.
993, last of the aircooked (héhéhé, hope you guys understand that one), and because of the nice derrière.
But I'd like to say a good word for the 3.2 liter C1: good engine management, low fuel consumption, a fast car (231 hp) and she's mine, of course.
I'd even put in a good word for the 944 turbo, and -why not,- a nice 914 is something very special.
I could go on and include all Porsches! ;)

I have a 1975 911. Why that choice? I did research and talked to alot of people that actually had the 2.7 cars.
My findings? The "problems" are highly exaggerated. The price is low because of this. Most of the things that need done have been done on most of these cars. They are still light cars without all the bells and whistles.
If you backdate the exhaust or go with headers you have almost as much HP as an SC.
Man that was tough, not talking negative about other cars to prove my point.:p

apparently we have professor in the house with mr. panic, and im sorry for the headache i have caused him. i must really bring out the passion in him with that being his 2nd post and him showing all that. thank you to those of you that looked around my skeeels, or lack there of, read between the lines and played along. prof panic please include your email on you profile, so i may send you the drafts of future posts so you may proof read them prior to them being broadcast. :D